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Originally Posted by Fearoftheunknown

Lol but the poster is trying to get govt jobs, and grades are everything in public service. Or so I heard.

hard truths, govt says there're jobs for diplomas and ITEs too, but it's probably a "not in my backyard" situation.

those who know about the civil service will know there is division I, II, III, IV, with degree holders usually falling into division I. ask yourself why is there a need to segregate people into divisions?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hard truths, govt says there're jobs for diplomas and ITEs too, but it's probably a "not in my backyard" situation.

those who know about the civil service will know there is division I, II, III, IV, with degree holders usually falling into division I. ask yourself why is there a need to segregate people into divisions?

Then maybe I should have chose the typical JC-Uni route instead. Few years back I chose the diploma-work route as I wanted to gain hands-on experience which I thought is more practical. If I don't get at least an interview soon I might start to regret my past decision... Contrary to what the govt says, I guess having a degree is really important in Singapore, well at least in the govt sector.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Then maybe I should have chose the typical JC-Uni route instead. Few years back I chose the diploma-work route as I wanted to gain hands-on experience which I thought is more practical. If I don't get at least an interview soon I might start to regret my past decision... Contrary to what the govt says, I guess having a degree is really important in Singapore, well at least in the govt sector.

I don't understand what is the confusion. Government did not said that degree is not important, having a recognized degree will increase ur chances of getting better jobs and earning higher lifetime income.

What the government has been saying is to NOT get a degree for the sake of getting one if you r not cut out for it. Getting a degree from universities that accepts anyone who are not mentally challenged will not miraculously open up better opportunities.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't understand what is the confusion. Government did not said that degree is not important, having a recognized degree will increase ur chances of getting better jobs and earning higher lifetime income.

What the government has been saying is to NOT get a degree for the sake of getting one if you r not cut out for it. Getting a degree from universities that accepts anyone who are not mentally challenged will not miraculously open up better opportunities.

whether you like it or not, degree is going to be the norm in the future. good luck

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Then maybe I should have chose the typical JC-Uni route instead. Few years back I chose the diploma-work route as I wanted to gain hands-on experience which I thought is more practical. If I don't get at least an interview soon I might start to regret my past decision... Contrary to what the govt says, I guess having a degree is really important in Singapore, well at least in the govt sector.

sorry for the harsh comments follows but I'd say you are either "stupid" or "been misled" back when you made that decision. There's a reason why JC-uni has higher entrance requirement than poly-work route. An easy route rarely leads to more profitable outcome - it is simply against market norm. I believe what the government's recent anouncement actually means giving diploma holders some chance to progress instead of none, not that they'll be treated equally as degree holders.

May I know what's the salary of a fresh grad (with NS) in EMA as an analyst?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hard truths, govt says there're jobs for diplomas and ITEs too, but it's probably a "not in my backyard" situation.

those who know about the civil service will know there is division I, II, III, IV, with degree holders usually falling into division I. ask yourself why is there a need to segregate people into divisions?

Who gets into div 1, 2, 3 and 4?
can a uni grad be in div 2?

hello!

Im a local poly kia, graduate this year and Im looking at working in CPF. I wish to know how is the working culture like in CPF?

It is not about the culture but your work attitude.

Originally Posted by Fearoftheunknown

Eh no, he is corp comms manager only because the chinese directors like him, he curries favour with the new chinese CEO, and there are no senior singaporeans in the company to lead the newly formed corp comms dept after the company went through major restructuring...He wouldn't have what it takes to be a corp comms manager if he were to be in a MNC or civil service. Spewing rainbows and unicorns can get you to the top, but you won't stay long cos people can see through the lack of substance/inability. It applies to not just comms/PR alone but also to all the jobs out there. Always make sure you have the substance to prove your talk otherwise people will not respect you just like how I do not respect my manager.

But he is still your manager right? See the difference? Smoking and carry ball skill make a world of difference for promotion. And you are still stuck below him.