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Originally Posted by Unregistered

If not, then join which company?

As someone who has joined both, ncs, nec and go tech. I can tell you all tech company treats you like ****.
Cause we are all replaceable by fresh grad.

My suggestion is, join each company to learn for 2 to 3 years. Then recycle around them.
I have seen colleagues who quit to go outside then they come back few years later.

Basically the idea is to get paid and gain experience.
Tech changes all the time, staying in one company does no good.

Plus a candidate with 3 to 5 years in numerous tech company is more valuable.
Than one with 10 years in 1 same company and no progression.

And be prepared to deal with lots of impostor
Alot of impostors in tech. My division have a software team but most of them are just "managers", my boss ask why our software team outsource software work to outside company?

Its funny cause even the infra team outsource the work to outside contractor.
Its like nobody in ST knows how to do any work other than sign paper. Raise dorm
Prepare document. All paper work pusher only.

And you wonder why they can get promoted.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone know what are the salary for the current grades:
E4:?
E5:?
E6:?
M1:?
M2:?

For STE, E5 SCH 5.5k+, FCH 6k+.

M1 and above la?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

For STE, E5 SCH 5.5k+, FCH 6k+.

Can attest to this. Just joined last year and drawing 6.2k fresh grad

Originally Posted by Unregistered

As someone who has joined both, ncs, nec and go tech. I can tell you all tech company treats you like ****.
Cause we are all replaceable by fresh grad.

My suggestion is, join each company to learn for 2 to 3 years. Then recycle around them.
I have seen colleagues who quit to go outside then they come back few years later.

Basically the idea is to get paid and gain experience.
Tech changes all the time, staying in one company does no good.

Plus a candidate with 3 to 5 years in numerous tech company is more valuable.
Than one with 10 years in 1 same company and no progression.

And be prepared to deal with lots of impostor
Alot of impostors in tech. My division have a software team but most of them are just "managers", my boss ask why our software team outsource software work to outside company?

Its funny cause even the infra team outsource the work to outside contractor.
Its like nobody in ST knows how to do any work other than sign paper. Raise dorm
Prepare document. All paper work pusher only.

And you wonder why they can get promoted.

From your words, that means pick the one offering the higher compensation right?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

As someone who has joined both, ncs, nec and go tech. I can tell you all tech company treats you like ****.
Cause we are all replaceable by fresh grad.

My suggestion is, join each company to learn for 2 to 3 years. Then recycle around them.
I have seen colleagues who quit to go outside then they come back few years later.

Basically the idea is to get paid and gain experience.
Tech changes all the time, staying in one company does no good.

Plus a candidate with 3 to 5 years in numerous tech company is more valuable.
Than one with 10 years in 1 same company and no progression.

And be prepared to deal with lots of impostor
Alot of impostors in tech. My division have a software team but most of them are just "managers", my boss ask why our software team outsource software work to outside company?

Its funny cause even the infra team outsource the work to outside contractor.
Its like nobody in ST knows how to do any work other than sign paper. Raise dorm
Prepare document. All paper work pusher only.

And you wonder why they can get promoted.

I guess choose the one offering the highest compensation package?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

M1 and above la?

M1: 6.5k
M2:7.2K

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I guess choose the one offering the highest compensation package?

And the job role la.
Ask yourself if you are offered a cleaner job.
One is clean toilet, have to work Saturday but higher pay.
The other is clean office, no need Saturday but lower pay.

You decide.

Cause the cleaning toilet one won't last.
The clean office one won't get anywhere.

Depends on your situation.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can attest to this. Just joined last year and drawing 6.2k fresh grad

Our team just hired a new fresh grad joined Feb.
Already 4 months still can't produce result. All he does is just research and Google stuff.

I showed my lead this thread and told him "you hire fresh grad 6.2k higher pay than senior and the fresh grad can't do. How you explain to the team?"

The team lead reply: 6.2k is not true lo. He is paid 6.5k. If he can't deliver, he have to overtime and answer to management. If not will give him warning letter before termination. In the mean time, our team must produce black and white documentation that we have provided assistance and guidance"

Good luck fresh grad.

Does anyone have information on the digital academy for swe? How is the salary like for fresh grads and the progression?