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Originally Posted by Fina_W

Hi all, just an unrelated question.

Recently we had a NUS gathering of old faculty mates and one of the guys says he is a Senior Manager in NEA. Told us his total package last year including basic + bonus + aws etc is around 185k.

Just want to ask around if this kind of salary is common for a 36 yr old non-scholar who join NEA since NUS as it sounds quite high. I am 1 year younger and also exploring to join another stat board and the salary range HR indicate to me is way below. Is NEA a better paying stat board than the rest?

Sorry for noob question, but I all the way in private sector and dun really know how public sector works in terms of salary.

Thanks.

Though not impossible as illustrated by the poster above, I find it hard to believe, unless when he said Senior Manager, he was not referring to his title, but to his position in the organisational hierarchy.

do note that there are certain professional schemes which pays higher (economist/lawyer/engineers/etc)..

also the public services seems to have some special program where they groom leaders/management... forgot wat izzit called... but is available for non-scholar i think

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well it will depend on your current grade and pay isn't it? For example if you're drawing more than $6k now, you can't really expect a 20% increment for AH position in EDB.

Having said that, there's no harm in asking. They will tell you if it's possible or not, and if not, what is their limit.

currently MX12, slightly less than 5k, but wif the yearly increment in April, confirm will hit 5K+.....so possible to ask for 20% increase in pay??? (meaning for them to offer me ard 6K+ as assistant head, if i am offered)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

if i am not mistaken, a circular was issued recently, stating that there would not be any salary increment for changing of jobs within public service organizations

tis applies also if i quit from ministry and join statboard???? if so then wats e pt in changing jobs within public service????

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Could you advise on when was the circular sent? Will I be affected if I resign from current ministry, and join another public agency afresh (i.e. not a continuation of service)?

can i also jus ck, from ministry to statboard, definitely hav to quit n then join rite? No such ting as transfer rite?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

tis applies also if i quit from ministry and join statboard???? if so then wats e pt in changing jobs within public service????

intrinsic motivation
check your intranet or with HR?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

can i also jus ck, from ministry to statboard, definitely hav to quit n then join rite? No such ting as transfer rite?

If the stat board isn't part of the Ministry's umbrella, then yes, you'll have to quit and join. Else it'll be considered as a secondment/transfer.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

currently MX12, slightly less than 5k, but wif the yearly increment in April, confirm will hit 5K+.....so possible to ask for 20% increase in pay??? (meaning for them to offer me ard 6K+ as assistant head, if i am offered)

You can try, but I personally think it'll be hard. Unless you're entering as MX11, else there is no way they'll offer you 6k+ (the salary ceiling for MX12 is around 5.8k).

To be honest, AH is just one level up from SO (entry level), and typically a fresh grad takes about 3 years to be promoted to AH level. The fact that they are offering you AH position could mean that they view your experiences as insufficient to be considered for middle management role (Hd - DD level). Then again it's more important to look at the grade which they are offering you (EDB may have different grade scheme as Ministry).

I personally have more than 20% increment when I jumped from a stat board to a Ministry. Though the reasons I could do that was because it is hard to find candidates with relevant experience for my role, and I could "negotiate" as I have offers pending my reply from other agencies.

I would say no harm in asking, they probably have a limit as to how much they can offer you (all HR people would know this). If your request is too much, they will counteroffer. Last word of advice, counter their counteroffer with an additional $100 increment (that's usually their last last buffer).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

currently MX12, slightly less than 5k, but wif the yearly increment in April, confirm will hit 5K+.....so possible to ask for 20% increase in pay??? (meaning for them to offer me ard 6K+ as assistant head, if i am offered)

Maybe it'll also be useful if you could share the years of experience (both private and public) upon graduation. It'll give us a better idea as to how much you can ask for.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Lets work it out shall we? Assuming he performed well (grade A for appraisal), and so gotten 5 months performance bonus. Include aws and the rest of the year, he should received 18 months worth of salary. 185k divide by 18 approximates a monthly salary of 10k.

You mentioned that his title is Senior Manager. As the title differs from agency to agency, I would extrapolate his title to be similar to that of an Assistant Director (in a Ministry) based on the number of years he'd worked (10 years). The typical pay for an AD in Ministry will be in the range of 6 - 9k. So yes, it is possible that your friend is drawing in close to 10k a month (exceptional performance through the years, coupled with the market adjustments in the previous years).

Whether NEA pays better than other agencies, I'm not so sure. Commonly known ones that pay better are DSTA, MAS, EDB, Spring, and IE Singapore etc. Usually those economic agencies or agencies under Mindef pay better as compared to the other agencies.

Hi, thank you very much for your help.

Haha, yes the stat board I am applying for is EDB and the HR there "prep" me salary is 6.5-7k range & total package is ~100k, so was very surprise when I heard NEA can pay almost double for a guy almost same age same level (I assume)

Hearing from you I have to conclude my NUS friend is either a super high performer or quite good at exaggerating.