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Originally Posted by Unregistered

getting lowest grade in one's appraisal would mean no bonus in CS. I think that might be the diff btw CS and pte

I have never come across anyone getting a D grade in cs. Unless you are under investigation for some serious cock up.

Need only to work for 3 years before being eligible for the postgraduate sponsorship, which includes the annual remuneration. But I notice that it is easier to get it if one is working in a technical or specialised position. My friend who works in the hydrography department was sent to Plymouth to study hydrography. For myself, I am currently reading computer science at York. MOH sends many of their healthcare professionals such as pharmacists and physiotherapists for a one year Masters program too.

Do note that the abovementioned scheme is different from the AO scheme, where they would send future senior civil servants to Harvard to study Public Administration or MBA. By the way, i have heard that MBA is reserved for AOs only. So if you happen to work in a finance position, you may consider other options such as Masters in Accounting or Commerce.

So far, only Mindef sends their scientists and engineers for a fully paid for PhD program.

A common profile for the postgraduate recipients is that they are generally in their early 30s (having worked in the civil service for at least 3 years, as mentioned above) and have a decent CEP (aka potential). Most importantly, they have the support of their bosses.

[cslee]

To add, postgrad sponsorship do not equate high CEP. I know a whiner in my department kept pestering boss for 1 year MSc sponsorship in UK. The boss cannot "tahan" and send the whiner away for one year. Upon return, whiner complained loudly why no performance bonus i.e. D grading.

[cslee]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I have never come across anyone getting a D grade in cs. Unless you are under investigation for some serious cock up.

Investigation would be "E = adverse report" liao.

[cslee]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Need only to work for 3 years before being eligible for the postgraduate sponsorship, which includes the annual remuneration. But I notice that it is easier to get it if one is working in a technical or specialised position. My friend who works in the hydrography department was sent to Plymouth to study hydrography. For myself, I am currently reading computer science at York. MOH sends many of their healthcare professionals such as pharmacists and physiotherapists for a one year Masters program too.

Do note that the abovementioned scheme is different from the AO scheme, where they would send future senior civil servants to Harvard to study Public Administration or MBA. By the way, i have heard that MBA is reserved for AOs only. So if you happen to work in a finance position, you may consider other options such as Masters in Accounting or Commerce.

So far, only Mindef sends their scientists and engineers for a fully paid for PhD program.

A common profile for the postgraduate recipients is that they are generally in their early 30s (having worked in the civil service for at least 3 years, as mentioned above) and have a decent CEP (aka potential). Most importantly, they have the support of their bosses.

3 years is minimal on paper. Come with at least 3 years bond for local study. But most won't recommend if you haven't been on job for at least 5 yrs cos no one know whether you would like to stay long. Btw, sponsorship has no link to CEP. Often, I see those who didn't take up sponsorship can promote faster than those who did.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Bro I think your pointer 1 is wrong. I am a rmit grad and I am in research. The only place that are off limit to private degree is policy. And even if you are local degree also hard to get in because usually policy is reserved for scholar. 52 years old or not to reach what level I think it boils down to your boss like you or not.

In general, please do not join cs if you dun have the passion and pride to serve the public and have genuine interest to make Singapore a better place. If you are joining to earn big bucks and climb the cs ladder. I think you are better off in the private sector. Otherwise after u join 5 years and can't get any promotion u will end up a kpk person and drag your feet to work everyday thinking no one give u an opportunity . And it will be too late for you to join back the pte sector.

Please choose your career wisly and ask yourself what you want put of it.

Thank you for sharing

no need to have worked for many years. But need to have a decent CEP.

Originally Posted by cslee

3 years is minimal on paper. Come with at least 3 years bond for local study. But most won't recommend if you haven't been on job for at least 5 yrs cos no one know whether you would like to stay long. Btw, sponsorship has no link to CEP. Often, I see those who didn't take up sponsorship can promote faster than those who did.

not talking about extreme cases or isolated cases. In general, a good CEP is required.

Originally Posted by cslee

3 years is minimal on paper. Come with at least 3 years bond for local study. But most won't recommend if you haven't been on job for at least 5 yrs cos no one know whether you would like to stay long. Btw, sponsorship has no link to CEP. Often, I see those who didn't take up sponsorship can promote faster than those who did.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

not talking about extreme cases or isolated cases. In general, a good CEP is required.

In CS context, good performance means consistent C grader. The point is that sponsorship doesn't raise one CEP. Having a sponsorship doesn't make you a high flier.

i am not here to contend against all the nitty gritty stuff like CEP, career advancement etc. Everyone will have their own opinion and I will leave it as such. I am just sharing with people who may be keen to pursue such a program whilst in civil service, from my personal experience. It is an invaluable experience and will definitely broaden one's horizons.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

In CS context, good performance means consistent C grader. The point is that sponsorship doesn't raise one CEP. Having a sponsorship doesn't make you a high flier.