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Old 05-08-2021, 11:09 AM
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Seems about right if you consider them giving you a slight premium for your starting salary due to your masters and your 13 years of exp in academia are treated as useful but not directly relevant so it is halved (~7years). Of course if you compare with someone who starts off in the Ministry from a fresh grad (not saying that you should compare) and after working for 13 years in that place, that person will definitely be paid more than what they offer you. Also, have to bear in mind it is a contract job.
This pay level sounds depressing for this age. But good perspective on them halving the experience due to lack of relevance. I recently declined an offer as it was 20% lower than what I was drawing in private , couldn't be at peace with it when I think of peers in govt with higher pay.

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Old 05-08-2021, 11:21 AM
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Speaking as someone from the private sector, there are anecdotes of fake FT degrees getting past SG checks and balances.
The problem is MOM confirmed they will not check.
They say employer's responsibility to check.
If employer company CEO is an indian from india, he can warn HR dept NOT to check.
Then 80% the "highly qualified" foreigners from india in SG may have FAKE degrees.
So far, there is no solution to this in SG.
State Authorities pass the buck (just the simple act of checking) to private sector and employers.
Why is this so?
I suspect MOM is very afraid to discover the truth.
Because then they will be under fire for allowing to happen.
Have to explain in Parliament.
I think in the long term this is going to wound SG deeply.
MOM do check
hence those situations of being charged for providing fake info during applying for a pass

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Old 05-08-2021, 11:48 AM
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MOM do check
hence those situations of being charged for providing fake info during applying for a pass
Question is whether the private sector should even be asked to check in the first place? Most private sector HR do not have the ability to know if Uptron college is a legitimate non-degree mill before giving the india Ramesh a high-paying professional job in SG.

Its a level of false assurance that the private sector is asked to do the job, which I guess is how MOM absolves itself of blame when sh1t hits the proverbial fan. Not to mention pmet Singaporeans being deprived of high-paying professional jobs in their own country of birth.

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Question is whether the private sector should even be asked to check in the first place? Most private sector HR do not have the ability to know if Uptron college is a legitimate non-degree mill before giving the india Ramesh a high-paying professional job in SG.

Its a level of false assurance that the private sector is asked to do the job, which I guess is how MOM absolves itself of blame when sh1t hits the proverbial fan. Not to mention pmet Singaporeans being deprived of high-paying professional jobs in their own country of birth.
Given the way mom approaches maid issues, this is perfectly believable. But nothing we can do if they don't want to work for the benefit of singaporeans. We just have to work to ensure our skills set are always relevant.
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Hi, I was deciding for a mid-career switch to the public sector and recently went for some interviews with some of the statboards. Seems like they like to ask whether why do you want to join the public? How do you all usually answer this question?

And also, if after the interview, if I see the job posting being re-posted up on the [email protected] page, is it a sign that you have failed the interview? Lol! Thanks!
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Old 07-08-2021, 01:47 AM
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Hi, I was deciding for a mid-career switch to the public sector and recently went for some interviews with some of the statboards. Seems like they like to ask whether why do you want to join the public? How do you all usually answer this question?

And also, if after the interview, if I see the job posting being re-posted up on the [email protected] page, is it a sign that you have failed the interview? Lol! Thanks!
I somehow skipped that question when they asked and still got the job

I guess it depends on your hiring managers
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Old 07-08-2021, 09:31 AM
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totally agree that a person who joined as a fresh grad will get a lot more. Cannot expect to just cross over and get a comparable package. That's the most misunderstood fact.

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Seems about right if you consider them giving you a slight premium for your starting salary due to your masters and your 13 years of exp in academia are treated as useful but not directly relevant so it is halved (~7years). Of course if you compare with someone who starts off in the Ministry from a fresh grad (not saying that you should compare) and after working for 13 years in that place, that person will definitely be paid more than what they offer you. Also, have to bear in mind it is a contract job.
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Old 08-08-2021, 01:12 AM
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totally agree that a person who joined as a fresh grad will get a lot more. Cannot expect to just cross over and get a comparable package. That's the most misunderstood fact.
Ya personally I took a drastic pay cut (8k -> 5.8k) moving from private sector to a SB to focus on family. For me it is well worth it considering the stability and significantly better work life balance (my job is WFH mostly and only takes up 2-3h a day to complete) which allowed me to have a side hustle (extra 3-3.5k). Been 2 years now and quite a well worth move I must say.


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Ya personally I took a drastic pay cut (8k -> 5.8k) moving from private sector to a SB to focus on family. For me it is well worth it considering the stability and significantly better work life balance (my job is WFH mostly and only takes up 2-3h a day to complete) which allowed me to have a side hustle (extra 3-3.5k). Been 2 years now and quite a well worth move I must say.
Got approval from PS for side hustle or not? Lol
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totally agree that a person who joined as a fresh grad will get a lot more. Cannot expect to just cross over and get a comparable package. That's the most misunderstood fact.
Yes, you are correct.
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