Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

but can get a lot of free sex here

Lol... is that why my canadian abc colleague is in my firm n always hanging out w a chinese sg girl

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Honestly, my best advice is to stay in Toronto, the working hours in Singapore are crazy and the pay is not commensurate with international standards (the only good thing is lower tax).

For first year assocs in the local Big4, I'll just ballpark it at 6k (but Wongp recently cut salaries). For first years at half-internationals (like Baker), you can expect 7.5k. For the Clifford Chance type firms you'll generally need to do their UK TC (trainee pay is high though), or get a PQE cut, but I am not sure about lateral-ing in for a Canadian lawyer (but I actually assume it's easier than for a SG lawyer).

Thank you very much for the advice and honest response.

What is the expected billable hour target per annum for an associate at an international firm? How about Local Big 4?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thank you very much for the advice and honest response.

What is the expected billable hour target per annum for an associate at an international firm? How about Local Big 4?

1000 for international law firm. 2500 for big 4

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1000 for international law firm. 2500 for big 4

International firms have lower billable hours than Local Big 4? Does the 2500 also include non-billable hours?

Originally Posted by TorontoLaw

International firms have lower billable hours than Local Big 4? Does the 2500 also include non-billable hours?

International law firms pretend to focus on non billable. Local firms hardly do non billable

You work much harder in local firms. If you are a slouch and want to earn money and enjoy pretending then international firm is good for you

Originally Posted by Unregistered

1000 for international law firm. 2500 for big 4

This is nonsense. Local big4, UK and global firms (e.g. bakers) usually have a target of around 1.8k - 2k PA (i.e. 7.5-8h/d). US firms might have a higher target but also pay way more. Targets don't always determine your hours though - that entirely depends on your team. My team doesn't work overly long hours (think 8-9pm on average) despite a 2k target, while I've heard of others (especially in local firms) working past midnight regularly despite a lower target.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is nonsense. Local big4, UK and global firms (e.g. bakers) usually have a target of around 1.8k - 2k PA (i.e. 7.5-8h/d). US firms might have a higher target but also pay way more. Targets don't always determine your hours though - that entirely depends on your team. My team doesn't work overly long hours (think 8-9pm on average) despite a 2k target, while I've heard of others (especially in local firms) working past midnight regularly despite a lower target.

Thank you for the honest response. In Toronto, our billable targets are approximately 1.8k - 2k PA as well.

How many weeks of vacation does the typical associate in an international firm have?

Are there specific practice areas which are more competitive / lucrative in Singapore?

Thanks again.

Actually extremely insightful - any further inputs? it would benefit us all.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I think it's beneficial for us to know whether the recruiters who approach us just need warm bodies or are able to view things from our perspective. We are the clients after all. To this end, it would be great to able to differentiate the good from the bad. Here's my little contribution to the list.

I can corroborate OP's account of Dhvani Doshi - very elusive, opaque, and ghosts. Don't waste our time brah.

New to the list - Sophie Chen and her posse from Daode Search - extremely unprofessional in terms of approach and follow-up. Work on your grammar brah.

Last but certainly the worst I've come across so far - Elly Lailee from ANSA. Jezuz H Christ where to start? Starts digging / stirring **** about your firm / team on the first call, asks for your comp in hard numbers, and has no leads for you. Absolute shocker. Be very wary - comes across as the kind to throw you under the bus. You can sense the toxicity from this one. Anyone with similar experiences? Would be great to hear.

what are the salaries like
for norton rose
mayer brown

2-4 pqe sg scale

Hi NQ assoc here, wondering what's payscale like for junior assocs (PQE NQ-5)? Across all firms from big, medium, and small respectively.

Curious because my expected pay was cut because of COVID, and not sure if it will affect future increments, so just want to get a sense of how it's like outside my firm. Thanks!