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Old 24-05-2020, 06:06 PM
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I got a First Cass Honers. I also went to Hatvatf after that
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Hi i got retiend by a big4 furm. Gettig 7500 now. Im rich!!

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Big 4 assoc here. Had my fair share of scoldings but I don't think there's anything wrong with it either.

There's a line to be drawn between "verbal abuse" and scoldings. If you mess up as an associate, this has consequences which oftentime fall on the partners. As an associate you are ultimately not the one who is responsible for messups - it's your partners and their reputations which suffer.

A scolding when you make a mistake seems perfectly reasonable to me so long as it is confined to your mistake and helps you learn. When it goes into abuse territory, then it's definitely not okay .

That being said, I know of a lot of personalities who are simply unsuited for the law firm (or tbh, any corporate culture) life.

I do not agree at all. There is no reason for any scolding in the first place in professional setting.

And how do you tell as a junior what is justified or not?

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Hi i just got retrenched any options other than going in house at my pa's company
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Hi i got retiend by a big4 furm. Gettig 7500 now. Im rich!!
Wow 7.5 serious? Nice spelling though, you must come from the retrenchment benefits pool
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Hi i got retiend by a big4 furm. Gettig 7500 now. Im rich!!
Pretty sure anyone from the 15% won't spell like that. The salt is strong in this one.
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Hi i got retiend by a big4 furm. Gettig 7500 now. Im rich!!
Pretty sure none of the Big4 firms pay S$7,500, especially in these times.
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Pretty sure none of the Big4 firms pay S$7,500, especially in these times.
Yeah that's overpaying.

Maybe the mid sized will. Especially if you bring in billion dollar dills
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Yeah that's overpaying.

Maybe the mid sized will. Especially if you bring in billion dollar dills
Hi original OP here, truth be told I dream about big 4 errday and get jealuz when people say they are there due to my inferiority complex
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I like how this forum disses delisted schools. I am a first class and I am better than NUS 2.2s. My knowledge of the law has contributed to the development of legal principles in Singapore. I break the mould. Although I sometimes sad when I get scolded/abused, I am really smart and although my parents took out a loan to pay for my first class (it wasn't easy, I had to work to get a First), and I failed Part A.

What should I? The firm I'm in has said because I failed they may not offer me retention as I have to wait another year. I got a First/high 2.1 though it was a bona fide mistake. I am sure I am better than the average NUS student. It is not because my friends from delisted schools often fail Part A and it is nothing to do with quality. The marking is horrible. I heard NUS also has a high failure rate for advanced corporate practice.

Anyway, I have a friends and buddies as a delisted school student and he also failed Part A but got retained at a mid sized because he's a white horse. They rescinded his training contract but it is still A-okay. In the end he got retained. Look at the unfairness. WHITE HORSE
I feel like there are some punctuation marks and words missing from whatever you wrote above. And the phrasing is off as well - the point you're trying to make isn't abundantly clear. I hope that your legal writing is better than this.

In any event, a couple of points:

On Part A, I don't think the markers go out to fail anyone, but it does take some time to get used to the assessment system for Part A. The approach is different from those of overseas unis, and perhaps even some modules in local universities. Unfortunately many people slip up, but the best way to react to this is to get up and try again.

On retention and general career success, it really is up to the value you bring to the table / firm. Not that I don't believe you, but if you say that you've contributed to Singapore legal discourse, it should warrant some merit (and consequently, a place in the firm). But on the off chance that your firm has wrongly failed to recognised your merits, then just move on. Across the board law firms aren't irrational - if you're good, you're gonna get a place in a firm and a chance to prove yourself.
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