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Old 19-10-2017, 10:26 PM
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Shes not chio in real life leh. I met her in her office. She seems to have heavy eyebags. What a poor thing. Shes an associate (meaning she does the grunt work), but definitely a great law career awaiting for her in years to come.

dont mind me i'm just camping here for the chiobus

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Unfortunately, for most public service jobs would require you to be a qualified person with at least a few years of PQE. Even for legal counsel posts in ministries or statutory boards, they usually prefer candidates to be called to the bar.

Another option is applying to AGC as a DPP which doesn't require you to be called. But I heard from peers that AGC is on a hiring freeze due to the glut (confirmation needed). Apparently many graduates who could not secure a TC flocked to AGC.

How are your grades? AGC would require at least a 2.1.
Funny that you make AGC sound like a second best option or a dumping ground.

Its far harder to get in than any of the Big 4 for pete's sake.

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Old 20-10-2017, 02:25 AM
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I would also recommend checking with your Part B lecturers. In my year, one of the lecturers asked and offered training/assoc positions in the even that we didn't already have offers.

We all did so didn't take him up on it.
Wow, so nice of him/her. I don't think such things happen anymore? What's more, most of my Part B lecturers (for corp at least) are from the big firms so I don't think they can just offer like that since it prolly has to be dept decision (which would also involve HR) nor do I think they really care tbh hahaha

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Funny that you make AGC sound like a second best option or a dumping ground.

Its far harder to get in than any of the Big 4 for pete's sake.
Not really. AGC is a place where law grads who can't make it in private practice go to work. Most of the work like prosecuting mats for lame offences is meaningless
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Not really. AGC is a place where law grads who can't make it in private practice go to work. Most of the work like prosecuting mats for lame offences is meaningless
nice trolling, AGC is actually a fairly good place to walk. The combination of decent pay, good bonus, fairly good work-life balance, early trial experience, ability to do a wide variety of work due to the varied postings available, and decent prospects (within govt at least) is a rather good proposition as shown by the fact that they are very full and not really hiring.

at this stage, they are certainly harder to get in than big 4 (which takes 20-30 people per firm per year); the non-scholar intake of AGC/legal svc (outside jlc) has been <4 in recent years.


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Wow, so nice of him/her. I don't think such things happen anymore? What's more, most of my Part B lecturers (for corp at least) are from the big firms so I don't think they can just offer like that since it prolly has to be dept decision (which would also involve HR) nor do I think they really care tbh hahaha
You will be surprised.
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nice trolling, AGC is actually a fairly good place to walk. The combination of decent pay, good bonus, fairly good work-life balance, early trial experience, ability to do a wide variety of work due to the varied postings available, and decent prospects (within govt at least) is a rather good proposition as shown by the fact that they are very full and not really hiring.

at this stage, they are certainly harder to get in than big 4 (which takes 20-30 people per firm per year); the non-scholar intake of AGC/legal svc (outside jlc) has been <4 in recent years.
Agree with ^

They've been on a hiring freeze for a while now, though that was the direction under the last AG. Don't think this is going to change though, considering how hit pay is in private sector atm.
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nice trolling, AGC is actually a fairly good place to walk. The combination of decent pay, good bonus, fairly good work-life balance, early trial experience, ability to do a wide variety of work due to the varied postings available, and decent prospects (within govt at least) is a rather good proposition as shown by the fact that they are very full and not really hiring.

at this stage, they are certainly harder to get in than big 4 (which takes 20-30 people per firm per year); the non-scholar intake of AGC/legal svc (outside jlc) has been <4 in recent years.
Different poster here. C'mon, AGC pays a measly 3.8k starting to girls (with second uppers), what kind of salary is that? Guys who served NS get ~4.6k (with second uppers) because they are considered to have worked for 2 years. And the increment is also much lower - approximately $450 per year. After 5 years, girls earn only 5.2k while private practitioners would be earning 9-10k.

You sure AGC is good?
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Different poster here. C'mon, AGC pays a measly 3.8k starting to girls (with second uppers), what kind of salary is that? Guys who served NS get ~4.6k (with second uppers) because they are considered to have worked for 2 years. And the increment is also much lower - approximately $450 per year. After 5 years, girls earn only 5.2k while private practitioners would be earning 9-10k.

You sure AGC is good?
1. agc pays full salary from day 1 of part b/rlt - that's at least a year of pay (1.5 for UK grads) that can offset some of the gains the pte sector people make after they get called.
2. agc follows gahmen bonus scheme, i.e. 13 month bonus, random mid year and end year bonuses etc and perf bonus. an avg performer can easily collect 4-5 months bonus in total. nowadays the law firms don't pay much bonus if at all.
3. agc sponsors LLM; private firms hardly do.

plus other fringe benefits like better work life balance and good job stability, not like big firms where they may push you out if they dont like your face or if you dont make partner.

and i doubt someone with 5 years of experience in legal svc only earns 5.2k.
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What is the latest updates on the committee to look into training contracts situation that was announced more than a year ago?
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