HR-related Jobs - How much are you earning?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks for the info. I cannot reveal the bank, but it is AVP for business partnering cum OD. They are offering me 10.9k although I indicated 12k in expected pay, but I am willing to take up if the work life balance is better than foreign banks and the culture not too political.

can intro me HR business partner job?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks for the info. I cannot reveal the bank, but it is AVP for business partnering cum OD. They are offering me 10.9k although I indicated 12k in expected pay, but I am willing to take up if the work life balance is better than foreign banks and the culture not too political.

10.9k for AVP should still have some room for negotiation, have you tried talking to the hirer to see if they can offer a bit closer to your expectations?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

10.9k for AVP should still have some room for negotiation, have you tried talking to the hirer to see if they can offer a bit closer to your expectations?

I have thought of it before, but was countered with the fact that they will only review again after probation. Tried to negotiate something like that into writing, but the HR head was quite firm and insist there will be no exceptions to any employment contract template. Haha seems like the local bank is much stricter and more compliant then where I came from.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I have thought of it before, but was countered with the fact that they will only review again after probation. Tried to negotiate something like that into writing, but the HR head was quite firm and insist there will be no exceptions to any employment contract template. Haha seems like the local bank is much stricter and more compliant then where I came from.

Yea that's the norm for banks, they are very strict on legal and compliance matters.

[Longthekayaboy]

How much can i earn with an RMIT cert in oil & gas sector with a HR role?
Caught in between HR and finance in this sector.gona grad next year making preparation now

Originally Posted by Longthekayaboy

How much can i earn with an RMIT cert in oil & gas sector with a HR role?
Caught in between HR and finance in this sector.gona grad next year making preparation now

Please read through the topic from the beginning. HR has many jobs, some are very high paying some are very low. It depends on what job, not what industry.

Originally Posted by Longthekayaboy

How much can i earn with an RMIT cert in oil & gas sector with a HR role?
Caught in between HR and finance in this sector.gona grad next year making preparation now

Realistically with just a RMIT cert and no relevant exp it is unlikely you will be able to get into hr, too competitive.

If you really interested, maybe can take up administration jobs first (usually called operations hr or hr generalist) and work your way slowly to real hr jobs internally.

Thank you all so much for the replies. I learnt so much from reading the past 43 pages of this topic. Prior to this, my understanding of HR was a merged picture of HR generalist and specialist, didn't realise there was a clear distinction between the two.

I would, like many others, like to work in a HR specialist role. What are the character traits typical or required for a HR specialist? Eg for BP and recruitment, you need to be competitive, aggressive and outgoing?

Also, how feasible is it to apply to PSD (from the JD they seems like HR spec) and get fundamental HR spec experience for a few years and moving on to the private sector. Would this HR spec experience be viewed as relevant?

Thanks for your responses!

[wern]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thank you all so much for the replies. I learnt so much from reading the past 43 pages of this topic. Prior to this, my understanding of HR was a merged picture of HR generalist and specialist, didn't realise there was a clear distinction between the two.

I would, like many others, like to work in a HR specialist role. What are the character traits typical or required for a HR specialist? Eg for BP and recruitment, you need to be competitive, aggressive and outgoing?

Also, how feasible is it to apply to PSD (from the JD they seems like HR spec) and get fundamental HR spec experience for a few years and moving on to the private sector. Would this HR spec experience be viewed as relevant?

Thanks for your responses!

Yeah I saw the PSD ad too. Looks interesting. Not sure whether they're considering fresh grads though because they didn't specifically state it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thank you all so much for the replies. I learnt so much from reading the past 43 pages of this topic. Prior to this, my understanding of HR was a merged picture of HR generalist and specialist, didn't realise there was a clear distinction between the two.

I would, like many others, like to work in a HR specialist role. What are the character traits typical or required for a HR specialist? Eg for BP and recruitment, you need to be competitive, aggressive and outgoing?

Also, how feasible is it to apply to PSD (from the JD they seems like HR spec) and get fundamental HR spec experience for a few years and moving on to the private sector. Would this HR spec experience be viewed as relevant?

Thanks for your responses!

Here’s my 2c.

First off, I don't think character traits are all that important, it really depends on the situation. Sometimes being aggressive and smooth talker works, sometimes it doesn’t. Just be yourself, no need to act out a character that you think the employer is looking for.

For a freshie to start off in HR, the first important thing is actually academics. Ideally your chances will be higher if you get at least a FC honors from the 3 local uni or even better oversees institutions. The reason is because if you want to jump into HR straight away, the 2 most common ways are very competitive – 1) Join a reputable HR management consultancy or 2) Join a global MNC management associate program for a HR opening. Base on my observation anyone with less than first class in the 3 local uni is at disadvantage.

The other slower way to do it is to first join operational or general administrative jobs first and slow gain experience and move your career towards HR. These jobs are much more common in job ads & portals like “HR Executive” “HR Generalist” “Operations HR” etc. But the danger from this way is like people who join banking back office hoping to leap to investment banking, it seldom happens and there is a high chance you end up trapped in some crappy job.

As for the HR PSD job, I suggest you not waste your time if you do not have a FC honors + Deans list in a local university. Such PSD jobs are future training grounds in the public sector to select candidates for mid-career AO (i.e. scholar elite) program. If your academics is average or above average, totally no chance of taking a shot. This is open secret within civil service.