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Old 15-10-2024, 11:52 AM
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Stupid useless teachers whine so much. Pathethic. Even kids also no respect you.

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We also shouldn't normalise criticising people for wanting to have work life balance. Blame the school and MOE for forcing teachers to plan and go for these trips. Introduce an allowance for those who take on these extra responsibilities and then you'll see greater enthusiasm to take on these roles.

Instead of criticising one another, how about we focus on the real enemy?
To regard your employer, MOE as an enemy.

You really have no integrity for your profession.

I will never respect teachers. Earn money from employer, talk bad about employer.

Teachers are my enemies then.

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Old 16-10-2024, 08:34 AM
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Is not unable. Is unwilling. In fact they want to reduce the number of EOs. Have targets to cut headcounts every year.
If manpower cannot be increased, then workload and expectations of each teacher have to be managed. More warm bodies is not the only solution. How about publicly admitting that we have a manpower problem and define a more realistic job scope that does justice to both our students and our teachers (rather than bleeding teachers dry for the students)? That's something that MOE can absolutely do, even if PSD says cannot increase headcount.

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Is not unable. Is unwilling. In fact they want to reduce the number of EOs. Have targets to cut headcounts every year.
Is not entirely MOE's fault for downsizing the education service. PSD reckons that we might be overdrawing on the labour pool.
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Is not entirely MOE's fault for downsizing the education service. PSD reckons that we might be overdrawing on the labour pool.
But if you’re decreasing manpower then you need to DECREASE the workload. Even keeping it constant when manpower goes down already means workload increases. What more to keep piling things on?
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But if you’re decreasing manpower then you need to DECREASE the workload. Even keeping it constant when manpower goes down already means workload increases. What more to keep piling things on?
CANNOT! You missed the memo from the queen of thrones at HQ? She says no, as long you dont disturb her throne.
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Old 18-10-2024, 04:57 PM
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As a HOD myself, I would say definitely not. If you are sick, you need to stay at home and rest. Most bosses are reasonable and understand that everyone falls sick.
You are a kind HOD. I am sure your staff in your department have great morale and are willing to do more just for you. I used to take MC as a BT when I was not feeling well in my previous school, feeling it was an entitlement, and also I felt a bit burnt out. In the end, I was stuck in a vicious cycle of work piling up. The work assigned are not completed by relief teachers, other teachers also had to take my class and it became unfair to them. They were also tired but they still came to school. They started to not like me or gossip about me. Ranking was affected naturally, I got bad grade.

So as much as possible, we should not be a burden to others. After posting to new school, I try to endure more. Nowadays, I take maximum 1 to 2 days of sick leaves per year. Even for childcare leave,I try to ask my spouse to take. The good thing is I can complete more work, students are more meaningfully engaged with my presence. However on days when I feel tired but still forced myself to go and work, but got arrowed to do relief lesson for someone else, it really does not feel good. However, I did not give up. I endured. Have been getting good grades for past few years as a reward with more performance bonus.

I think it is all about team work. Everyone should try to be present as much as possible. And being in this profession, we have to learn to take care of our health to be there for the students. Taking MC just when we feel tired is not a solution. It will make the situation worse. In fact, I feel so much better, by minimising my absence. My colleagues appreciate me more and trust me more. They know that I will always be around and can use me as backup if anyone else is absent.

It is a tiring profession. But which job is not a tiring one? Just hang in there, if we don't do, who do?

If you want good pay increment, it's difficult because the headcount of teachers is too big. Where is the money going to come from given that the GDP only increase few percent per year? The only way is to cut down manpower which is what we are facing. You want more money but less work, it is not possible unless the ministers take less salary or other ministry spend less and give MOE more to give to the teachers.

Also, many a times, people sitting in HQ are too comfortable with their jobs. They will not think much about the difficulties or challenges a teacher faces. They still continue to get their salary, travel overseas with their bonus and try very hard not to come back to school. I have known too many who rather quit than come back to school. They cannot take the workload in school as a teacher anymore. However, someone must do the job, it is the teachers. We need to take care of these kids until they are mature enough to go out into the society. In fact, MOE is a mega childcare. Teachers and students are just a number in the system. So, don't think too highly of ourselves. We just do our job as best as we can, help as many kids as we can and try to stay sane with the recent $500 given to us which is not enough to buy half a new iPhone 16.
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First of all, thanks for sharing your views but I simply couldn’t agree with what you are doing. We are first and foremost humans and it’s perfectly fine to take mc as long as it’s not excessive. Secondly, just by being present in school and “enduring”, does it reall serve organisational goals? Thirdly, for me at the end of the day, teaching is just a job, only a few students will rmb what you did for them and colleagues will not be in your life forever. But your family will. Your child and spouse will remember that you chose work over them and is this whay you want in exhange of better performance bonus?

Your change in outlook was probably due to your horrible experience in your previous school. But turning into a vessel of chasing peformance bonus and recognition from school at the expense on your own well being and family is not really ideal either.

Striking a balance is never easy but I am really worried about your current state of understanding of what an educator in school should act and behave like. Doing our best doest not mean sacrificing our own well being.


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You are a kind HOD. I am sure your staff in your department have great morale and are willing to do more just for you. I used to take MC as a BT when I was not feeling well in my previous school, feeling it was an entitlement, and also I felt a bit burnt out. In the end, I was stuck in a vicious cycle of work piling up. The work assigned are not completed by relief teachers, other teachers also had to take my class and it became unfair to them. They were also tired but they still came to school. They started to not like me or gossip about me. Ranking was affected naturally, I got bad grade.

So as much as possible, we should not be a burden to others. After posting to new school, I try to endure more. Nowadays, I take maximum 1 to 2 days of sick leaves per year. Even for childcare leave,I try to ask my spouse to take. The good thing is I can complete more work, students are more meaningfully engaged with my presence. However on days when I feel tired but still forced myself to go and work, but got arrowed to do relief lesson for someone else, it really does not feel good. However, I did not give up. I endured. Have been getting good grades for past few years as a reward with more performance bonus.

I think it is all about team work. Everyone should try to be present as much as possible. And being in this profession, we have to learn to take care of our health to be there for the students. Taking MC just when we feel tired is not a solution. It will make the situation worse. In fact, I feel so much better, by minimising my absence. My colleagues appreciate me more and trust me more. They know that I will always be around and can use me as backup if anyone else is absent.

It is a tiring profession. But which job is not a tiring one? Just hang in there, if we don't do, who do?

If you want good pay increment, it's difficult because the headcount of teachers is too big. Where is the money going to come from given that the GDP only increase few percent per year? The only way is to cut down manpower which is what we are facing. You want more money but less work, it is not possible unless the ministers take less salary or other ministry spend less and give MOE more to give to the teachers.

Also, many a times, people sitting in HQ are too comfortable with their jobs. They will not think much about the difficulties or challenges a teacher faces. They still continue to get their salary, travel overseas with their bonus and try very hard not to come back to school. I have known too many who rather quit than come back to school. They cannot take the workload in school as a teacher anymore. However, someone must do the job, it is the teachers. We need to take care of these kids until they are mature enough to go out into the society. In fact, MOE is a mega childcare. Teachers and students are just a number in the system. So, don't think too highly of ourselves. We just do our job as best as we can, help as many kids as we can and try to stay sane with the recent $500 given to us which is not enough to buy half a new iPhone 16.
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Stupid teachers complain so much again everyday.
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Hi, I would like to find out what happens after we accept the open posting offer and the current school principal also accepts it?

Am I suppose to reach out to my new school at the end of Term 4 or will they contact me when necessary?
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