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Old 21-02-2023, 10:43 PM
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Thanks, it does makes sense. I went through NIE training and am a trained teacher for Special Education. If I were to apply with MOE, will these experiences be taken into consideration? I know I might be pushing it since sped ed and gen ed are two different areas of expertise. Haha.
No exception.

There are Allied Educators who have taught in schools for many years, and have plenty of classroom experience.

When crossing over to become EO, they still need to go through NIE again for PGDE. Still need to start from the entry level paygrade despite essentially doing the same job as before.

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Old 22-02-2023, 09:59 PM
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Hello, am a fresh A-level graduate here who has scored very well and am considering majoring in CS but also chemistry as I enjoy the subject and also have quite a passion in teaching. I want to ask whether is it still possible to pursue PGDE to teach chemistry at a secondary/JC level (As a mid-career change) if I decide to major in CS now?

Also, I want to ask if yall would chase the money in a well-paying field like CS now or pursue your passion (i.e teaching i assume? ) if you were given a chance to start over again? I know its quite a loaded question so you can not answer this if you don't want to. As a bit of background, I come from a poorer family but was born smart and ended up in an elite JC. I got surrounded by ppl with lots of $$ so I have questions about how much would yall value $$ hehe.
Go CS. Teaching next time can midcareer switch

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Hello, am a fresh A-level graduate here who has scored very well and am considering majoring in CS but also chemistry as I enjoy the subject and also have quite a passion in teaching. I want to ask whether is it still possible to pursue PGDE to teach chemistry at a secondary/JC level (As a mid-career change) if I decide to major in CS now?

Also, I want to ask if yall would chase the money in a well-paying field like CS now or pursue your passion (i.e teaching i assume? ) if you were given a chance to start over again? I know its quite a loaded question so you can not answer this if you don't want to. As a bit of background, I come from a poorer family but was born smart and ended up in an elite JC. I got surrounded by ppl with lots of $$ so I have questions about how much would yall value $$ hehe.
I will suggest you consider the TSP:

s://nie-microsite.webflow.io/?fbclid=IwAR2cZJ2UKvMf58j535zwba7Zi_JY_e-xHfBPlEwW8aTKz9Zq7DlNz_ylwpY&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Go for MOE interview and see what they offer you. Assuming you have a heart for teaching and they see you have potential to serve in schools, joining TSP now will be the most rewarding route (monetary wise too).

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Old 23-02-2023, 05:57 AM
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Whatever you do, make sure you have a degree not related to education. This will allow you to exit teaching when you get tired in years to come.

Many existing teachers have no choice but to stick around as their only degree is from NIE. Hence, their market value outside teaching is kinda low.


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Whatever you do, make sure you have a degree not related to education. This will allow you to exit teaching when you get tired in years to come.

Many existing teachers have no choice but to stick around as their only degree is from NIE. Hence, their market value outside teaching is kinda low.
The degree has been changed to a double major. It is now a double major programme, this means that you have an education + general degree.
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I will suggest you consider the TSP:

s://nie-microsite.webflow.io/?fbclid=IwAR2cZJ2UKvMf58j535zwba7Zi_JY_e-xHfBPlEwW8aTKz9Zq7DlNz_ylwpY&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Go for MOE interview and see what they offer you. Assuming you have a heart for teaching and they see you have potential to serve in schools, joining TSP now will be the most rewarding route (monetary wise too).
This is bad advice. Youíll be denied a fun 4 years of uni since there are more restrictions in NIE, plus your holidays are often burnt doing teaching stints. Also no transferability. And honestly when you donít experience 3/4 years doing a discipline, your knowledge of it is actually not very strong.
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Oh, then doesnít it say a lot about the value of an NIE degree?


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The degree has been changed to a double major. It is now a double major programme, this means that you have an education + general degree.
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Oh, then doesnít it say a lot about the value of an NIE degree?
This is interesting news.

And to be straightforward, the global culture towards teachers is the same. Too niche, skills are not transferable. I guess that's why there is this change in the programme? Help teachers quit and switch careers more easily?

Wouldn't this make the younger officers quit even more easily when their bond is up? Treat the bond/experience as some sort of stepping stone?

And does this make the programme more "expensive" i.e. longer bond period?
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Old 24-02-2023, 08:11 AM
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I will suggest you consider the TSP:

s://nie-microsite.webflow.io/?fbclid=IwAR2cZJ2UKvMf58j535zwba7Zi_JY_e-xHfBPlEwW8aTKz9Zq7DlNz_ylwpY&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Go for MOE interview and see what they offer you. Assuming you have a heart for teaching and they see you have potential to serve in schools, joining TSP now will be the most rewarding route (monetary wise too).
I donít think TSP is the best advice. If youíre planning to take any kind of teaching scholarship with a bond, go for PSC, followed by EMS and TSO, and failing which then TSP. Civil service is hierarchical and anything below PSC there is a glass ceiling. If youíve done well academically, then why limit yourself when thatís precisely what civil service rewards. It also gives you an ďoutĒ if school life is not for you - postings to MOE HQ or secondments (though secondments now more open to everybody). Just cause you thrived as a student in a neighbourhood school doesnít mean you can adapt to teaching in one. It will only happen if you can truly connect with the students, and most often itís not via academics. On scholarship, only go for a lower tier option if they donít accept you for the higher tier.

But my advice still stands. Go CS. Next time can still midcareer switch to teaching if the pull is really that strong. The other direction is not impossible - Iíve done it, but it takes a lot more effort.
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Wen is promotion list announced?
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