NCS (SingTel subsidiary)

Any current or former ncs dba?
Wish to know the work life and have you encounter demanding client?

I got an offer but idk whether to join or not. If we have many projects and have to do Neclues project, then where is my me time....... and i have another offer which is avanade. Which is equally have bad reviews as ncs

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Quite a number of the seniors in ncs really cannot make it. Lead in wrong direction, explain not clear end up us juniors do more rework then actual work. Based on my observation, the juniors are actually quite solid and the quality seems to be improving. Its just demoralizing at times being lead by seniors who aren’t the most capable. Just my honest 2cents.

company want to pay fresh grad with inflated pay.
then u all do lo. no need supervision of lead.
just let u front the customer, let u do the coding, let u take all the heat.

we senior just enjoy life with our low pay can liao.

fresh grad is already starting with senior pay.
they are expected to deliver senior quality work.
no hand held is need or will be provided.

cant do. then quit or resign.
get lost or play the game.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just join . Private U , Fresh grad ,4.2k .

This is very disheartening. When I join NCS few years back I got in with 3.5k, my seniors already giving me a hard time. overtime almost everyday while they go home on time. i got scolded by customers few times etc. meeting no idea..

after i stayed for at least 3 years the seniors slowly open up to me and accepted me. they revealed to me that they started at 2.5k and quite surprised i started at 3.5k

now fast forward few years... this fresh grad is 4.2k

im currently only 4.6k with NUS master of science some more...
i feel so demoralized.

i hope u understand if ur senoir don't provide u or accept u with loving open arms, its not that they hate u... its that they don't understand why they work in this company for 10 yeras and their pay is so close to a freshie with no proven record / skills.

so we have to give u the opportunity to shine and produce the work.
u need to be worth ur pay. so good luck and all ur best .

i shall learn from my senior to only accept newbie if they stayed for at least 3 years.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I got an offer but idk whether to join or not. If we have many projects and have to do Neclues project, then where is my me time....... and i have another offer which is avanade. Which is equally have bad reviews as ncs

Thats what they are paying u for... for your time...
Laywer starting pay 5k they work until 2 to 3 am... its expected.

Ahbuden you think high pay 8 to 6 pm sharp job meh.
lots of weekend. lots of overtime. lots of stress. lots of projects. lots of things to do.
if u calculate it ... u earn higher by doing honest work like mcdonald.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

company want to pay fresh grad with inflated pay.
then u all do lo. no need supervision of lead.
just let u front the customer, let u do the coding, let u take all the heat.

we senior just enjoy life with our low pay can liao.

Seniors in ncs be like nooo we get lower pay than fresh grad so they should do all the work. I want higher pay but then I'm not skilled enough to join other companies to get higher pay

The higher u climb the more lepak...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Seniors in ncs be like nooo we get lower pay than fresh grad so they should do all the work. I want higher pay but then I'm not skilled enough to join other companies to get higher pay

They want to slack cause they feel they are not paid enough, stay stagnant with their current skillset, unable to jump ship cause work 10 yrs already but still achieve so little. Come forum blame fresh grads cause their own company value fresh grads more than them... and they wonder why... hahah

You NCS seniors really have to wake up to the reality. 10 years ago, the IT courses at local uni are one of the dumping grounds. And for you to accept an offer from NCS, you're basically the bottom 20% of your cohort. And for you to remain there till today, it means you haven't upskilled enough to join a decent firm. Now the fresh grads coming in are gradually straight As students, the biz students equivalent of our generation. Naturally they have higher demand and, I believe, standard. If you're not humble enough to recognise that you're already far behind the rat race, and start to buck up, your future would not just be "low pay", but something much worse..