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Old 17-03-2016, 07:10 PM
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It's the harsh reality sadly. What's the point of doing work review when the ranking has alr been done. There's no discussion or anything with my sup or bosses. My sup will only tell me what new targets I need to do. Agreed with u, I hv a co-worker who threatened to resign afew times and he was promoted. I feel that when a staff has been working silently for long, the mgt somehow knows that the person will never leave and pass the person over for promotion.
Nobody is indispensable....threatened to quit for promotion is silly, bosses may rather make plan for a standby or reserve, incase you leave them abruptly with tones of leftover work.

You co-worker who threatened...surely average performer, but work extra hard for very long, happened that turn for promotion come along

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Old 18-03-2016, 09:28 AM
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private sector bah haha

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Old 20-03-2016, 02:09 PM
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Average mean most(70%, 80%...) people belong to that category. You are definitely not alone feeling such...

Consider to Leave....If you feel strongly you are seriously under-paid in comparison with market rate, seriously under-rated in performance as you have bigger dream and ambition to fulfll ....or you can't continue to work having to worry being label by other "can't make it".....

You current pay(relative with others) is something bosses may consider before promoting you. You will never knew how much all of your colleagues getting, only the big boss knew. Who know if some are getting slightly lesser than you, happen that both of your doing similar work....

Promotion is not free lunch... it comes with a price to pay
It's never free lunch I know that as I worked my ass off for it. The year before my promo was the most stress year I had. Then some other ppl including my sup still asked me how long I hv worked cos long ago it's default promo based on seniority. Well, I believe I hv done much more work or even same kinda work as those who were promoted with higher pay. So don't know what they are complaining abt. One of my col who gt default promo long ago commented 'it's Gd that at least ur gt promoted for ur hard work'. Those who gt default promo somehow had the thinking that I was lucky to get my promo before my 'default' year. Actually there's no more default promo now as everyone hv to work for it if they want promo.

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Old 21-03-2016, 10:55 AM
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I was wondering if I quit my job (in ministry) and reapply to another ministry, does that mean the new ministry will recalculate my compensation package based on my experience and education credentials (as oppose to pegging it back to my current level if I transferred)?
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It's never free lunch I know that as I worked my ass off for it. The year before my promo was the most stress year I had. Then some other ppl including my sup still asked me how long I hv worked cos long ago it's default promo based on seniority. Well, I believe I hv done much more work or even same kinda work as those who were promoted with higher pay. So don't know what they are complaining abt. One of my col who gt default promo long ago commented 'it's Gd that at least ur gt promoted for ur hard work'. Those who gt default promo somehow had the thinking that I was lucky to get my promo before my 'default' year. Actually there's no more default promo now as everyone hv to work for it if they want promo.
CEP matters alot. If yours is low, then how many times can big boss promote you before you retire. If you disagree with the given CEP, it will be hard feel contended working there.
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Old 21-03-2016, 04:37 PM
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Hi All,

I just rejected the offer from stats board...

I am from private sector IT, got offer from stats board last week.
I like the job scope but it required me to take pay cut of 1.3k

Do you think is worth it to take the job ? Job agent told me stats board annual package 16 months... but is lesser than my current pay 1 to 2k
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Old 21-03-2016, 05:30 PM
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Hi All,

I just rejected the offer from stats board...

I am from private sector IT, got offer from stats board last week.
I like the job scope but it required me to take pay cut of 1.3k

Do you think is worth it to take the job ? Job agent told me stats board annual package 16 months... but is lesser than my current pay 1 to 2k
Difference in stat board and gov agencies is that you often get things like half day for events, or few hours earlier off a week for some of your own family like 'eat with family day', it's like SAF, lots of time off here and there for events & stuff. SAF day half-day go celebrate etc.

As long as you don't screw up, you can work there forever with the same bonuses yearly.

For private, you don't get much 'off time' for company events or half-days etc.
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Old 21-03-2016, 07:00 PM
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Can I ask when will the letter to notify of promotion be given out? Thank u.
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well, whats ur expectation? average performers in civil service with normal degrees generally stagnate at AD or SAD level. thats anywhere from 100-140k all-in. if this is good enough for u then stagnate is not really a concern.

but if u r those who think ur on the road to 400-600k type then of course pte sector better. but reality is also that most ppl in pte sector end up even lower than a stagnated civil servant, not to mention getting terminated when they are older.

up to u really.
Just chance upon this thread. I think to clarify, AD package may not always be in the range of 100-140k. (unless you are scholar/high flyer) Becos my cousin just got an offer in the PS for an AD position. (10years work experience, local degree). Not even near to the above mentioned range. Monthly gross only sub 5k. (so the collated information somewhere in this forum that mentions AD as high 7000+ to 8000+ per month is not always true)

This is further fueled by the large statistics of unemployed local pmets that has joined this pool of job hunters thereby diluting the bargaining power of the candidates.

So for those who think AD position are highly paid are not exactly right. But I do agree at this economic climate, you might not even get a job in the private sector due to the tight job market.
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Old 22-03-2016, 12:20 PM
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Just chance upon this thread. I think to clarify, AD package may not always be in the range of 100-140k. (unless you are scholar/high flyer) Becos my cousin just got an offer in the PS for an AD position. (10years work experience, local degree). Not even near to the above mentioned range. Monthly gross only sub 5k. (so the collated information somewhere in this forum that mentions AD as high 7000+ to 8000+ per month is not always true)

This is further fueled by the large statistics of unemployed local pmets that has joined this pool of job hunters thereby diluting the bargaining power of the candidates.

So for those who think AD position are highly paid are not exactly right. But I do agree at this economic climate, you might not even get a job in the private sector due to the tight job market.
Your cousin joined at the minimum end of AD as a relatively youngster with only 10 years work exp. What the discussion is about is the stagnation at AD level which means you will end your career at the high end of AD which is 7-8k.

You are confusing the issue here.
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