Shell Graduate program

Originally Posted by Unregistered

union jobs got many types, some of the technicians make a lot, hard to generalize. unless u join as grad program, normally union stay within union as they dont except fresh grad execs. only long serving and high performers are selected and move on to exec scheme.

i know some union staff there making a lot, so just don't get into trouble & stay long enough should be quite good pay.

may I know what sort of troubles? are there anything I should take note?

What is the pay progression like?

Thank you!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

may I know what sort of troubles? are there anything I should take note?

What is the pay progression like?

Thank you!

just do ur work and lay low, most union ppl there wayang for decades till retirement, so its a good place with good bonus, good increment and very little work.

if pay progression is really that impt to u then my advice is dun waste time in a union environment. if work life balance, wayang a bit to get by is ur style, then its a good place. in shell once u promote to exec level the place is very political and need to network like mad.

What is the starting pay for second lower fresh grad (no ns)?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

just do ur work and lay low, most union ppl there wayang for decades till retirement, so its a good place with good bonus, good increment and very little work.

if pay progression is really that impt to u then my advice is dun waste time in a union environment. if work life balance, wayang a bit to get by is ur style, then its a good place. in shell once u promote to exec level the place is very political and need to network like mad.

yeah they did give me clues of the scenario there. which hinted "wayang-ness" although I brush it off quickly as I don't want to be dampen lest i lose the job. I need a solid company in my resume and my working career for my future. i see this as good opportunity.

Sounds good but I can't think about bonus or increment now. haha. usually I start new environment, i have to focus on integrating into the culture asap and mastering my working style there.

How little is the work??? say 9 to 5 right. 1 hour lunch ? means 7 hour work. if you full blast all the way do non-stop, then need how many hours??


What was your position previously?

hmm.. I am that type of person that only has WORK in my life, and my family. I live and breathe my work. It is my identity. Thats why when SHELL offered me, i see this huge company as something I can dedicate myself again.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What is the starting pay for second lower fresh grad (no ns)?

no honours is 2.5k, depending on experience can hit up to 2.7k

Originally Posted by Unregistered

yeah they did give me clues of the scenario there. which hinted "wayang-ness" although I brush it off quickly as I don't want to be dampen lest i lose the job. I need a solid company in my resume and my working career for my future. i see this as good opportunity.

Sounds good but I can't think about bonus or increment now. haha. usually I start new environment, i have to focus on integrating into the culture asap and mastering my working style there.

How little is the work??? say 9 to 5 right. 1 hour lunch ? means 7 hour work. if you full blast all the way do non-stop, then need how many hours??


What was your position previously?

hmm.. I am that type of person that only has WORK in my life, and my family. I live and breathe my work. It is my identity. Thats why when SHELL offered me, i see this huge company as something I can dedicate myself again.

Shell is a super wayang company...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

yeah they did give me clues of the scenario there. which hinted "wayang-ness" although I brush it off quickly as I don't want to be dampen lest i lose the job. I need a solid company in my resume and my working career for my future. i see this as good opportunity.

Sounds good but I can't think about bonus or increment now. haha. usually I start new environment, i have to focus on integrating into the culture asap and mastering my working style there.

How little is the work??? say 9 to 5 right. 1 hour lunch ? means 7 hour work. if you full blast all the way do non-stop, then need how many hours??


What was your position previously?

hmm.. I am that type of person that only has WORK in my life, and my family. I live and breathe my work. It is my identity. Thats why when SHELL offered me, i see this huge company as something I can dedicate myself again.

union is really wayang go through motion every day till retirement. u will be ostracize if u try & act hero to be "on" abt doing ur job. promotion base on length of service & increment / bonus all fix regardless of performance.

if ur starting out fresh grad want to work hard make it big either join their grad program of go some other mncs & start off in a proper exec job.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

union is really wayang go through motion every day till retirement. u will be ostracize if u try & act hero to be "on" abt doing ur job. promotion base on length of service & increment / bonus all fix regardless of performance.

if ur starting out fresh grad want to work hard make it big either join their grad program of go some other mncs & start off in a proper exec job.

I guess I will just do my work diligently. I grad 2 years ago, 29 now.

I admire those people who stay all the way in one company and make it big.
Like a 40 year old friend of mine. 16 years inside Exxonmobil, rose from small time IT staff to Regional manager.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I guess I will just do my work diligently. I grad 2 years ago, 29 now.

I admire those people who stay all the way in one company and make it big.
Like a 40 year old friend of mine. 16 years inside Exxonmobil, rose from small time IT staff to Regional manager.

yea its not a bad thing to join shell union, just need to manage expectation on being a high flyer. if u stay stay low keep quiet the work load is very lax and pay good compare to many places.

as for shell & exxon proper, 40yo to reach regional mgr is consider average lah. those consider high potential usually reach this level by 31-32yo.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

yea its not a bad thing to join shell union, just need to manage expectation on being a high flyer. if u stay stay low keep quiet the work load is very lax and pay good compare to many places.

as for shell & exxon proper, 40yo to reach regional mgr is consider average lah. those consider high potential usually reach this level by 31-32yo.

got it. stay real low and do my own work.

what was your last drawn with shell union ?