Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical Timeline for making a Hiring Decision

Originally Posted by Unregistered

congrats! are u a fresh grad? is this a contract position? how's the annual compensation like?

Thank you! Nope not fresh grad. But my second job, MX12

Were you from private/MNC in your first job? If so, did you manage to secure a good salary increase?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Were you from private/MNC in your first job? If so, did you manage to secure a good salary increase?

From SME … increase ~10%. But good to me already as SME bonus and increment may not have every year

Originally Posted by Unregistered

From SME … increase ~10%. But good to me already as SME bonus and increment may not have every year

How many years of exp did you have?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How many years of exp did you have?

around 2 years, my exp at SME is not fully related but transferrable soft skills

[kindaichi]

how long for HTX, MINDEF or DSO to clear your security clearance?

Originally Posted by kindaichi

how long for HTX, MINDEF or DSO to clear your security clearance?

depending on whether they require to clear you at Cat 1 or Cat 2?

Cat 2A agaration could go between 4-6 weeks
Cat 1 think can go at least 8 weeks or slightly longer

hi, would appreciate any comments or thoughts on this

i've received multiple verbal offers from statboards and ministries, for 2 of them, after i submitted my documents i.e ns stuff, uni poly transcripts, they called me a week later and said they are going with another candidate or they are going thru restructuring and cannot hire. what are the chances these are not true and they just found a problem with my references/security clearance? or is this just coincidental? ive read that they wouldnt reveal why you failed anyway, but im curious to find out more if anyone has insider info

asking because ive been very deep into my job search and if this is a tell tale sign that i will not pass approvals/checks then i should not be wasting my time on civil service. just feeling really down because its hard to even get a verbal offer let alone a real one and a job

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hi, would appreciate any comments or thoughts on this

i've received multiple verbal offers from statboards and ministries, for 2 of them, after i submitted my documents i.e ns stuff, uni poly transcripts, they called me a week later and said they are going with another candidate or they are going thru restructuring and cannot hire. what are the chances these are not true and they just found a problem with my references/security clearance? or is this just coincidental? ive read that they wouldnt reveal why you failed anyway, but im curious to find out more if anyone has insider info

asking because ive been very deep into my job search and if this is a tell tale sign that i will not pass approvals/checks then i should not be wasting my time on civil service. just feeling really down because its hard to even get a verbal offer let alone a real one and a job

u r super lucky to reach the phase of provisional offers from many SBs/Ministries.
it could be possible that during the relevant admin checks eg Cat2A, Cat 1, red flags -> the ministry/SB may not proceed.
Eg traced antecedents with the likes of ISD, MSD, CRO
there's also possibility that your listed refs throw u under the bus with a lousy reference check, u can more or less suck thumb and kiss good bye.

from personal experience (having gone the other extreme of provisional offer retraction after clearing G50 and clearing submission with Perm Sec for the formalisation of provisional offer), the hiring SB/Ministry usually will await the outcome of the admin checks (ie no red flags in the G50), good to go then put up submission papers for Perm Sec approval to formalise the job offer.

from organisation perspective, it will take a very brave soul to put up submission paper to seek PS approval to hire a potential candidate that didn't pass the admin clearance phase.
these senior civil servants are super sharp ones, cannot hide from them.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

u r super lucky to reach the phase of provisional offers from many SBs/Ministries.
it could be possible that during the relevant admin checks eg Cat2A, Cat 1, red flags -> the ministry/SB may not proceed.
Eg traced antecedents with the likes of ISD, MSD, CRO
there's also possibility that your listed refs throw u under the bus with a lousy reference check, u can more or less suck thumb and kiss good bye.

from personal experience (having gone the other extreme of provisional offer retraction after clearing G50 and clearing submission with Perm Sec for the formalisation of provisional offer), the hiring SB/Ministry usually will await the outcome of the admin checks (ie no red flags in the G50), good to go then put up submission papers for Perm Sec approval to formalise the job offer.

from organisation perspective, it will take a very brave soul to put up submission paper to seek PS approval to hire a potential candidate that didn't pass the admin clearance phase.
these senior civil servants are super sharp ones, cannot hide from them.

as someone who has gone through an offer retraction, are you still working in CS? if someone/i were to fail a reference check or pre employment screening for a certain statboard/ministry, should he stop trying to work for the CS as he would just be wasting his time? HR does not share why screening failed