Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Nope. CEP cannot be changed easily. It is fixed on your type of education.

For example, if you are a MOE scholar, obviously you would be fast tracked and your RO has to raise a case if he/she wants to drop your grade from A to B every year.

If you are just a farmer aka local uni or NIE without any scholarship, you will get a standard C and then promote slowly. Of course your 1st promotion would be fast, as it is crucial to make you happy at lower pay first.

Your CEP is fixed for life. It CAN change but it wont. You need higher ups to put their necks on the line to request for a change in your CEP. If you are part of management, would you put your neck on the line to change Cep of 1 of your subordinates? For what right? Lol.

Stop spreading misinformation. Starting CEP varies according to educational background and scholar status, yes, but CEP can and will be shifted during your performance appraisals after you enter service. Depending on your performance and potential, your CEP can be shifted multiple times early in your career, and then (usually, but not always) stabilise in your mid to late career.

Being a scholar does not automatically guarantee a high CEP, and even if you start high, if you underperform, your panel will have no qualms adjusting your CEP downwards to better reflect your low potential. The same goes for non-scholars who consistently demonstrate that they are deserving to work at higher levels - their CEP can be adjusted to a point where their progression exceeds that of a low-performing scholar.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I heard from some friends that they were selected for the FLP.

How can we get onboard?

I’m a local uni grad, 2nd upper, GEO 3. Taught for about 6 years.

ems scholarship and above. or pat oyea winner/finalist

When retirement age is reached, can a KP continue on working at his/her position with the same pay and benefits?

someone with 16odd yrs in service. Reality is...does not matter. As lomg as your RO and SLs like you, you can be pushed up very quickly. Big sins can be forgiven. If they do not like you, smallest detail will kill.
Perfect eg....results are nt impt (national exams) if they like you....results are impt if they dont like you. Same for classroom management or anything you can think of. Sad but true

Usually no (re-employment capped at GEO5), but I remember reading something about either CAJT or re-employment options with schools allowed to re-hire at SEO1 pay grade. Not something I really looked into as it's still quite some time away for me 😅 but I think it's worth exploring with your VP/RO, if that's what you'd like to pursue?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When retirement age is reached, can a KP continue on working at his/her position with the same pay and benefits?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

someone with 16odd yrs in service. Reality is...does not matter. As lomg as your RO and SLs like you, you can be pushed up very quickly. Big sins can be forgiven. If they do not like you, smallest detail will kill.
Perfect eg....results are nt impt (national exams) if they like you....results are impt if they dont like you. Same for classroom management or anything you can think of. Sad but true

Agree 100% Spoken like a true blue veteran.

If you sense your sch leaders and/or RO do not like you, best option is go somewhere else the fastest you can as to stay is only to remain stagnant n torture yourself.

Hi. I have been a teacher for 17 years. Feel like switching to be a school counsellor instead. Any advise? I teach all the NT students so most of the time will he talking to the students and listening to their rants.need to know payscale and also whether will get sch holidays.... anyone can advise pls..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi. I have been a teacher for 17 years. Feel like switching to be a school counsellor instead. Any advise? I teach all the NT students so most of the time will he talking to the students and listening to their rants.need to know payscale and also whether will get sch holidays.... anyone can advise pls..

You missed the boat when counsellors first started the seo teachers converted to ne counsellors. My ex CT was pioneer batch.. Now counsellors are under AED scale. Many grumble cos technically they are looked as below EOs. Really your call. If your passion is in counselling go ahead! With these new gen of kids, we do need a lot of counsellors.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You missed the boat when counsellors first started the seo teachers converted to ne counsellors. My ex CT was pioneer batch.. Now counsellors are under AED scale. Many grumble cos technically they are looked as below EOs. Really your call. If your passion is in counselling go ahead! With these new gen of kids, we do need a lot of counsellors.

Degree holder counsellors are under mx scheme just like any other working in ministries, so definitely won’t lose out to teachers

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Usually no (re-employment capped at GEO5), but I remember reading something about either CAJT or re-employment options with schools allowed to re-hire at SEO1 pay grade. Not something I really looked into as it's still quite some time away for me 😅 but I think it's worth exploring with your VP/RO, if that's what you'd like to pursue?

I wonder how commonly schools do reemployment of KPs, especially when positions for EOs are so limited now...