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Are u a teacher? If not pls stop commenting how easy a teacher's work. Do u know other admins we have to do?
I have worked in a school before and the amount of time teachers are trying to navigate all the different systems is crazy. When the P or VP has new project initiatives or research topics, that's on a whole new level already.

So teachers here do not only mould the future, but they also contribute to the ever changing pedagogy.

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I have worked in a school before and the amount of time teachers are trying to navigate all the different systems is crazy. When the P or VP has new project initiatives or research topics, that's on a whole new level already.

So teachers here do not only mould the future, but they also contribute to the ever changing pedagogy.
Agreed. Teachers play an important role in shaping Curriculum, pedagogy, and assessment.

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Hello everyone,

Just checking in with the rest of the experienced souls. When you do Masters under the PDCM, does your CEP get bumped up higher?
No it doesn’t automatically.

CEP ultimately has to do with assessed potential by your leaders. It requires time and consistent performance. Doing your Masters perhaps demonstrates your willingness to develop yourself professionally; it does not demonstrate your potential as clearly as actual work done in school.
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I heard from some friends that they were selected for the FLP.

How can we get onboard?

I’m a local uni grad, 2nd upper, GEO 3. Taught for about 6 years.
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I heard from some friends that they were selected for the FLP.

How can we get onboard?

I’m a local uni grad, 2nd upper, GEO 3. Taught for about 6 years.
High CEP, consistently high performance grades (regularly getting Bs, occasional A), and still young enough (exact cutoff not known). FLP is centrally managed by HR, so all you can do is wait for the news.

6 years in service and still GEO3 may not suggest a very high CEP though, so you will need to temper your expectations a little. I'm not saying you're definitely not going to be on FLP, but you need to realise that at least amongst the young "go-getters" in the service, it is very competitive.
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No it doesn’t automatically.

CEP ultimately has to do with assessed potential by your leaders. It requires time and consistent performance. Doing your Masters perhaps demonstrates your willingness to develop yourself professionally; it does not demonstrate your potential as clearly as actual work done in school.
Nope. CEP cannot be changed easily. It is fixed on your type of education.

For example, if you are a MOE scholar, obviously you would be fast tracked and your RO has to raise a case if he/she wants to drop your grade from A to B every year.

If you are just a farmer aka local uni or NIE without any scholarship, you will get a standard C and then promote slowly. Of course your 1st promotion would be fast, as it is crucial to make you happy at lower pay first.

Your CEP is fixed for life. It CAN change but it wont. You need higher ups to put their necks on the line to request for a change in your CEP. If you are part of management, would you put your neck on the line to change Cep of 1 of your subordinates? For what right? Lol.
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Nope. CEP cannot be changed easily. It is fixed on your type of education.

For example, if you are a MOE scholar, obviously you would be fast tracked and your RO has to raise a case if he/she wants to drop your grade from A to B every year.

If you are just a farmer aka local uni or NIE without any scholarship, you will get a standard C and then promote slowly. Of course your 1st promotion would be fast, as it is crucial to make you happy at lower pay first.

Your CEP is fixed for life. It CAN change but it wont. You need higher ups to put their necks on the line to request for a change in your CEP. If you are part of management, would you put your neck on the line to change Cep of 1 of your subordinates? For what right? Lol.
This is very misleading. I know many scholars who get Cs. Everyone starts at GEO5 cep.
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Nope. CEP cannot be changed easily. It is fixed on your type of education.

For example, if you are a MOE scholar, obviously you would be fast tracked and your RO has to raise a case if he/she wants to drop your grade from A to B every year.

If you are just a farmer aka local uni or NIE without any scholarship, you will get a standard C and then promote slowly. Of course your 1st promotion would be fast, as it is crucial to make you happy at lower pay first.

Your CEP is fixed for life. It CAN change but it wont. You need higher ups to put their necks on the line to request for a change in your CEP. If you are part of management, would you put your neck on the line to change Cep of 1 of your subordinates? For what right? Lol.
********. Your CEP is not fixed for life. It could be adjusted upwards if you have proven yourself to be able to perform at a higher level. At the same time, it is possible for a downward adjustment if you really screw up
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Nope. CEP cannot be changed easily. It is fixed on your type of education.

For example, if you are a MOE scholar, obviously you would be fast tracked and your RO has to raise a case if he/she wants to drop your grade from A to B every year.

If you are just a farmer aka local uni or NIE without any scholarship, you will get a standard C and then promote slowly. Of course your 1st promotion would be fast, as it is crucial to make you happy at lower pay first.

Your CEP is fixed for life. It CAN change but it wont. You need higher ups to put their necks on the line to request for a change in your CEP. If you are part of management, would you put your neck on the line to change Cep of 1 of your subordinates? For what right? Lol.
You can't even tell the difference between performance grade and CEP. RO does not need to raise a case to drop or raise performance grade unless they are giving you adverse grade. Performance grade is dependent on your (duh) performance. Yes, RO needs to justify dropping or raising of CEP. That does not mean it is fixed. I have seen cases of CEP being adjusted. Your RO is not negatively affected when they adjust your CEP but of course, you have to prove your worth and show them that their decision to raise your CEP is a right one.
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