Career as Teacher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

is there a maximum age for flp?

Yes. 40 is the max.

Hi i've recently just applied to the PGDE programme and im curious about the career progression and starting pay scale. For some context i am female fresh grad, (local uni) + Masters(NUS) and i've had some teaching experience in a international school for about 2 years (part-time while i was doing my masters). Ive heard that HR will only take into account the honours for your first degree and base your pay on that. Is this true? And will part-time teaching experience factor in into the starting pay?

Also, since i've already taken my masters, are there opportunities to do a PHD/EdD in the future, (e.g. 5 years into teaching?) or will it be reserved only for more senior teachers/ scholars?

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[Munchen]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes. 40 is the max.

Scholarships for masters in teaching are usually given to KPs who had served a good duration of time in MOE, i would say at least 10 years. I have never seen a masters Teaching Assistant in NIE who is in their 30s.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When i read posts like this, i feel sad. It’s kind of naive that you this way. People are imperfect. Read widely and learn to read people.

i dont blame some of them for feeling this way though. yes, we can all learn to read people properly eventually. but it doesnt mean the other party will have compassion or empathy for others.

one of the previous posts already mentioned that a certain % of staff must get C-. this means that incompetent people will get it (of course), but also for some people who are targeted, it probably cant be avoided.

if you read the last 20-30 pgs of this thread, there are accounts of both extremes.

take maternity or NPL, still can get B
get challenging workload and do their best, still can get D

and some maintained that most superiors are actually not that evil and will try to let everyone scrape through with at least a C, so we should not take all the outlier stories too seriously

the truth is that the bell curve will always be there, and there are also all kinds of reporting officers out there. all of the above stories are equally possible. nowadays to survive and adapt is tougher, due to the competition and lots of changes in policies.

want to get out of a toxic environment and transfer? not that easy also, with the competition and limited vacancies.

want to remain comfortable (those with good RO protecting/fighting for you)? not for long anymore, with the forced rotation of ROs (according to previous posts).

decide on whats important to you - wanting to climb and learning how to survive the increasing workload and politics, or to stay healthy and sane while just doing mostly what you enjoy, yourself and your family.

Hi, what’s the pay increment from Geo4 to Geo5? From geo5 to seo1?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi i've recently just applied to the PGDE programme and im curious about the career progression and starting pay scale. For some context i am female fresh grad, (local uni) + Masters(NUS) and i've had some teaching experience in a international school for about 2 years (part-time while i was doing my masters). Ive heard that HR will only take into account the honours for your first degree and base your pay on that. Is this true? And will part-time teaching experience factor in into the starting pay?

Also, since i've already taken my masters, are there opportunities to do a PHD/EdD in the future, (e.g. 5 years into teaching?) or will it be reserved only for more senior teachers/ scholars?

Also

Civil service pay is based on bachelors. Having masters or phd doesn't mean anything in terms of starting pay. At best a higher cep.

You can take a self-paid masters anytime. If you want a fully sponsored masters, have to apply for postgrad scholarship (more for high cep people).

If you have served long enough, e.g. 10-15 years, you may take a paid sabbatical to do a masters at own expense.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You need to understand that it is actually more troubling and energy sapping for your KPs to justify a bad grade, than to just give a good grade. It makes no sense for them to do it out of no reason.

Exactly. There's no reason to intentionally give people C- or Ds purely out of malice at all. It just causes us more trouble.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Exactly. There's no reason to intentionally give people C- or Ds purely out of malice at all. It just causes us more trouble.

You can't give C-/D for no apparent reason or without being told on the possibility if performance doesn't improve. So I do find some of the stories about getting C- unexpectedly despite helming important projects and doing well with the jobs assigned bizarre.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You can't give C-/D for no apparent reason or without being told on the possibility if performance doesn't improve. So I do find some of the stories about getting C- unexpectedly despite helming important projects and doing well with the jobs assigned bizarre.

Bizarre doesn't mean won't happen haha. There are some who don't follow the usual procedures.

I know someone personally who have gotten 2 Ds before. Thankfully it's not in a row. He stayed at the same subgrade for around 10 years.

Teachers who studied at RI are so typically similar. Can't stop flexing on social media. Wanna have them as your RO?