Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Why does anyone even think that by putting in the time you are guaranteed X rank in Y years? Plenty of scrubs are not even of the requisite calibre or end up dropping out halfway as they don't have the iron in them.

It is honestly not that hard. There are plenty of scrubs who reached manager by putting in the years. I found it so hard to respect some of my AMs because of how bad they are in their work.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Those who have not looked for a job outside Big4, tends to hold the view that there is no good time to leave. I still remember my friend asking me if life outside Big4 is bad, when I am making more, working less, and doing things that I like.

Not saying that you can't make audit your profession. If you like it, stay in it. But there is no need to treat it as the One Job.

Don't need to preach to the choir. The people who know they can do better outside have left long ago. It's the people who are stuck inside with nowhere or no guts to go, that must take cold comfort in talking points like "guaranteed progression", "chance of equity partnership", "200k after 15 years".

It is not a TERRIBLE profession. If you can beat the odds with tireless stamina, and make it to the jackpot of equity, sure good for you.

Just know that there are far less soul sucking routes of making the same salary ranges.

And to upsell this like the poster above did, e.g. "very few other professions can get 200k in 15 years" , as though it's some super attractive deal, is really stretching it lah.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Don't need to preach to the choir. The people who know they can do better outside have left long ago. It's the people who are stuck inside with nowhere or no guts to go, that must take cold comfort in talking points like "guaranteed progression", "chance of equity partnership", "200k after 15 years".

It is not a TERRIBLE profession. If you can beat the odds with tireless stamina, and make it to the jackpot of equity, sure good for you.

Just know that there are far less soul sucking routes of making the same salary ranges.

And to upsell this like the poster above did, e.g. "very few other professions can get 200k in 15 years" , as though it's some super attractive deal, is really stretching it lah.

100% agree with this. There are many ways to get 200k LOL. Audit is excellent long term, but you must survive the grind first

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It is honestly not that hard. There are plenty of scrubs who reached manager by putting in the years. I found it so hard to respect some of my AMs because of how bad they are in their work.

Sure you can get to AM and M just by clocking time, anything above that is not guaranteed.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sure you can get to AM and M just by clocking time, anything above that is not guaranteed.

Isn't rating 3 = pass = eventual promotion to M1-3, then SM? Granted that you can get a worse than neutral rating, but a neutral rating is not very hard to get.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Isn't rating 3 = pass = eventual promotion to M1-3, then SM? Granted that you can get a worse than neutral rating, but a neutral rating is not very hard to get.

Just cos they keep you around doesn't mean they will promote you to that level la dey

It’s not guaranteed but you gotta admit that A1 A2 S1 S2

feels like Sec 1 Sec 2 Sec 3 Sec 4

Got people retain but most people will promote if you study

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Don't need to preach to the choir. The people who know they can do better outside have left long ago. It's the people who are stuck inside with nowhere or no guts to go, that must take cold comfort in talking points like "guaranteed progression", "chance of equity partnership", "200k after 15 years".

It is not a TERRIBLE profession. If you can beat the odds with tireless stamina, and make it to the jackpot of equity, sure good for you.

Just know that there are far less soul sucking routes of making the same salary ranges.

And to upsell this like the poster above did, e.g. "very few other professions can get 200k in 15 years" , as though it's some super attractive deal, is really stretching it lah.

Please go ahead to list those “less soul sucking routes, so that we can tell you why those are not apples to apples.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well, not many other professions propel you to 200 k per annum income in 15 years

Have but not easy to get in and need talent to climb

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just cos they keep you around doesn't mean they will promote you to that level la dey

i know got some people stuck at A2, senior for a few years cause they slacking and they still remain at big 4. Don't know what are they thinking. Maybe they just collect money and wait for the firm to sack them