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Originally Posted by Nani

I left the civil service after 12 long years, with a last drawn salary of $3.6k. I have a degree in engineering but was neither promoted nor paid according to my qualifications. Had tried applying for a senior post twice but was rejected.

Leaving the ministry was the toughest decision ever in my entire life (being in comfort zone for too long) but I was determined to leave for private sector or even stat board (public service) as I do not see myself remaining in the civil service forever till I retire.

Firstly, I see the learning curve in civil service quite gentle and to a certain extent, unchallenging.

Secondly, even if i get promoted to a senior post (based on my performance), there will be certainly a cap on my progression. Only graduates will not have any ceiling in terms of CEP (also depending on performance). If both graduate and non-graduate performs equally well, I'm very sure that the CEP for the graduate will be higher than the non-graduate. This is a fact that we can't deny.

Thirdly, if I want to earn big money, I should not remain in the civil service. If you don't dare to explore, you never would and be able to earn the big money you want in life.

Of course, it is not all about money after all, like what most of you have mentioned here, it's about job satisfaction. Do what we want in life, not what we have to.

I disagree that civil service is unchallenging. Over the last 5 years with the advent of social media and even more initiatives, civil servants are expected to perform in wider scope of work (many call it cross functional work) and also take into consideration the many ground sensitivities (social media backlash, public writing to MPs, etc for array of assistance or simply to provide feedback). In fact many are so overloaded yet tied up in burearacy that you sell large batches leaving after the periodical trenches (mid year, dec AWS, Apr PB) bonus are given out. Many carry their stress and work home. Those at Branch Head/AD and above even work on weekends so in a certain way their workload correspond with peers in private sector.

There's a cap in almost every progression in all industries. The top management are reserved for family members for family business, overseas scholars in govt and govt related companies, former top civil servants for GLCs, and parent company/foreign talent for MNCs. These constraints exists in many other countries, and political connections are even more prominent for top positions. I guess we need to accept this fact and divert our energy/time towards family or other spiritual or social aspects else we will be forever frusrated over promotions and career.

A lot of folks dreams or had dreamt of wanting to earn big money at one time or another. Unless are PS, DS and maybe senior Div Dir level, you are correct. There is no big money to be made in civil service. That's way your hear govt scholars breaking bonds or AO moving on to banks. There is however, possibility of big money to be made in GLCs. For example Chairman of CDL made more than tens of millions per year over last many years. Do note that it is only the very top and lucky few percent of the top earning professions, e.g. banking, medicine, finance, senior management, that makes more than a million each year. Others inherited their wealth.

My conclusion, it is quite true that the progression, hence earnings, of MSO -> MX in civil service is miserable. There is very strong reasons for leaving. But that doesn't mean that private sector will offer better terms. just that you will get to have a shot at it. To make it big, you will also need connection (ie. some family member rope you in as junior trader, connection (e.g. for housing, sales or insurance agent) or inheritance (capital to start a business). More of Singaporeans in your position have neither, hence they have no choice but are stuck in second class MX job. They try to seek happiness or at least relief thru focusing on family or gossiping.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You should have stayed on to complete your mba inside civil service before coming out... the slack environment inside is optimum for part-time studies... Your boss in private sector will not be as undestanding to let you leave on time like in civil service... Anyway, my suggestion is to really do a reputable MBA instead of a lousey 2nd grade one... If not it'll be a total waste of money really...

my view

First tier
top mbas (foreign) schools locally- Chicago, Insead and maybe Manchester. Of exception value if you can afford and in relevant industry (for example a practising doctor has no much value for MBA but a top hospital administrator might see the value for himself)

Second tier
top mbas (local) - NUS, NTU and SMU (all have EQUIS, etc international recognition) and except for SMU, have respectable international ranking. Of good value.

Third tier
PSB affiliation with Australian, US or UK unis, SIM Open Uni and overseas affiliations. Of some value.

Four tier
TMIS, MDIS, etc. Of very limited value.

Fifth tier
Might as well buy one from degree mill.

Anyone in MX9?

According to our DPM, the MX9 salary has a median of $13,750. He said the figure "happens to be about the mid-point of the MX9 (Superscale) grade".

DPM Teo's closing speech on political salaries

The MX9 pool is "actually quite a small group", at just 1.2 per cent of 76,000 civil servants, or about 1 in 83.

If you head a department of 80+ people, do you get $13,750?

[Bean]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone in MX9?

According to our DPM, the MX9 salary has a median of $13,750. He said the figure "happens to be about the mid-point of the MX9 (Superscale) grade".

DPM Teo's closing speech on political salaries

The MX9 pool is "actually quite a small group", at just 1.2 per cent of 76,000 civil servants, or about 1 in 83.

If you head a department of 80+ people, do you get $13,750?

2011 Civil Service Salary Range

Job grade: MX9 (Superscale)
Job title: Deputy Director, Director
Pay scale: S$10,580 – S$14,550 / S$14,551 – S$16,540

Job grade: MX10
Job title: Assistant Director, Deputy Director
Pay scale: S$6,350 – S$9,050 / S$9,051 – S$10,400

Job grade: MX11
Job title: Manager, Assistant Director
Pay scale: S$4,100 – S$6,160 / S$6,161 – S$7,190

Job grade: MX12
Job title: Assistant Manager, Manager
Pay scale: S$2,550 – S$5,130

Job grade: MX13
Job title: Management Executive
Pay scale: up to S$2,800 for fresh graduates

The salary ranges indicate the basic monthly wages that a civil servant may earn, and the figures exclude the potential value of civil service bonuses. Based on past newspaper reports, bonuses for an average civil servant could range from more than 2 months to 4 months inclusive of AWS (annual wage supplement), depending on the performance of the economy and individual performance.

Please note that the above salary figures are based on estimates shared in online forums and do not represent the official numbers published by the Singapore Government.

Civil Service Pay Scale in Singapore | Salary in Singapore | SG Salary Guide to Pay, Income and Jobs

Alot of the posts are really informative. Hoping to get some advice from those in the civil service.

Qualification: 2nd upps
working exp: 6 years
previous job: private sector (analyst)

What is a rough figure i should expect for a job at a ministry or statboard?

Originally Posted by Bean

2011 Civil Service Salary Range

Job grade: MX9 (Superscale)
Job title: Deputy Director, Director
Pay scale: S$10,580 – S$14,550 / S$14,551 – S$16,540

Job grade: MX10
Job title: Assistant Director, Deputy Director
Pay scale: S$6,350 – S$9,050 / S$9,051 – S$10,400

Job grade: MX11
Job title: Manager, Assistant Director
Pay scale: S$4,100 – S$6,160 / S$6,161 – S$7,190

Job grade: MX12
Job title: Assistant Manager, Manager
Pay scale: S$2,550 – S$5,130

Job grade: MX13
Job title: Management Executive
Pay scale: up to S$2,800 for fresh graduates

The salary ranges indicate the basic monthly wages that a civil servant may earn, and the figures exclude the potential value of civil service bonuses. Based on past newspaper reports, bonuses for an average civil servant could range from more than 2 months to 4 months inclusive of AWS (annual wage supplement), depending on the performance of the economy and individual performance.

Please note that the above salary figures are based on estimates shared in online forums and do not represent the official numbers published by the Singapore Government.

Civil Service Pay Scale in Singapore | Salary in Singapore | SG Salary Guide to Pay, Income and Jobs

very good analysis. you've given me a point of reference as i'm in a stat board.

Take note that:

The MX9 pool is "actually quite a small group", at just 1.2 per cent of 76,000 civil servants, or about 1 in 83.

Does anyone know what maybe the job grade and pay range for joining as dxo? I've 3 years working exp, 2nd Lw deg.

Anyone heard of an impending market adjustment for civil servants?

[alwaysnforever]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Anyone heard of an impending market adjustment for civil servants?

what have u heard?