HR-related Jobs - How much are you earning?

[cbee]

Originally Posted by mangodango

cbee,
how about yourself ?

what position are you holding now, your job scope and salary ?

i'm a fresh grad a few months into my first proper job in a com&ben consulting firm. drawing in the 3s and job scope basically entails working with spreadsheets and slides the whole day.

Originally Posted by cbee

Years of experience?

Just past 5 years.

Originally Posted by cbee

really depends on individual company vacancies and how well you perform in interviews. honestly to take in HR grads and to "groom" them is extremely unheard of, but is practiced in certain companies. Rio Tinto and Deutsche Bank i remember had specific HR programs for fresh grads but as can be expected, the competition will be intense.

Disagree with this statement about HR grooming unheard of.

There are a lot of hi-po programs in global MNCs that groom HR professionals for the fast track. Such programs usually advertised as Management Associates or Graduate Trainee programs without specifying which function to retain flexibility for deployment, but HR gets its fair share of these hi-pos.

But agree that competition super tough, regualr run of the mill local grads have little chance, pte uni no chance at all.

i'm a fresh grad a few months into my first proper job in a com&ben consulting firm. drawing in the 3s and job scope basically entails working with spreadsheets and slides the whole day.

Friendly piece of advice as someone with exp in career development: either ask your company to allow you to present to clients autonomously or join another consultancy that gives you that opportunity. Nobody gets anywhere in hr/consultancy by just doing excel & powerpoint whole day. My first job in consultancy I was already engaging clients in my 2nd week.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Disagree with this statement about HR grooming unheard of.

There are a lot of hi-po programs in global MNCs that groom HR professionals for the fast track. Such programs usually advertised as Management Associates or Graduate Trainee programs without specifying which function to retain flexibility for deployment, but HR gets its fair share of these hi-pos.

But agree that competition super tough, regualr run of the mill local grads have little chance, pte uni no chance at all.



Friendly piece of advice as someone with exp in career development: either ask your company to allow you to present to clients autonomously or join another consultancy that gives you that opportunity. Nobody gets anywhere in hr/consultancy by just doing excel & powerpoint whole day. My first job in consultancy I was already engaging clients in my 2nd week.

Forgot to put my ID, post by Topee_1

Originally Posted by MangoDango

ya I was about to ask.
how willing are most company to accept a fresh grad degree holder in HRM & marketing double major ?

low 2K is like diploma omg...

If you join as a entry generalist is 2.2-2.4k, specialist range from 3.2-4.8k.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If you join as a entry generalist is 2.2-2.4k, specialist range from 3.2-4.8k.

but companies willing to accept a fresh grad in HRM degree into a specialist field ? hmmmm

Originally Posted by MangoDango

but companies willing to accept a fresh grad in HRM degree into a specialist field ? hmmmm

Possible but hard, specialist roles only available in bigger companies, so not many around. Since pay is much better result in demand many times exceed the job supply.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Possible but hard, specialist roles only available in bigger companies, so not many around. Since pay is much better result in demand many times exceed the job supply.

ok.

say if I embark on the degree program of double major in HRM & Marketing.

all bros here please advise on what are the options and routes available say I want at least a $3K starting pay after I graduate ? but say if I start from 0 - min experience, how long will I take to reach specialist level and possibility chances ?

What should I be doing meanwhile studying full time. any possible opening I should be looking out for during the course of my studies to gain experience ?

I am open to all suggestions and views, but try not to be too harsh =(
haha

Originally Posted by MangoDango

ok.

say if I embark on the degree program of double major in HRM & Marketing.

all bros here please advise on what are the options and routes available say I want at least a $3K starting pay after I graduate ? but say if I start from 0 - min experience, how long will I take to reach specialist level and possibility chances ?

What should I be doing meanwhile studying full time. any possible opening I should be looking out for during the course of my studies to gain experience ?

I am open to all suggestions and views, but try not to be too harsh =(
haha

Depends on what sort of specialist you want. Base on my rough estimate, if you start off as generalist (dun think starting will get 3k though), 10%-20% generalist make it into specialist role after 10yrs

If you want to start as specialist straight, best bet is join big consultancies or top mnc, getting at least 2nd upper honors, deans list, strong CCA and good internship helps but no guarantee because too competitive

[cbee]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Disagree with this statement about HR grooming unheard of.

There are a lot of hi-po programs in global MNCs that groom HR professionals for the fast track. Such programs usually advertised as Management Associates or Graduate Trainee programs without specifying which function to retain flexibility for deployment, but HR gets its fair share of these hi-pos.

But agree that competition super tough, regualr run of the mill local grads have little chance, pte uni no chance at all.



Friendly piece of advice as someone with exp in career development: either ask your company to allow you to present to clients autonomously or join another consultancy that gives you that opportunity. Nobody gets anywhere in hr/consultancy by just doing excel & powerpoint whole day. My first job in consultancy I was already engaging clients in my 2nd week.

The point I am trying to make is simply MA programs specifically targeting HR, albeit there are instances of these programs, form up a relatively smaller proportion of all the other MA programs which target sales, marketing, SCM and project management.

In consultancy, we have many opportunities to engage clients and be present in CEO and Remuneration Committee meetings. The experience you are getting is completely end-to-end. I am sharing the fact that you have to be doing excel and powerpoint the whole day to not paint the pretty image of a consultant just going into a client meeting all guns blazing. There is a lot of groundwork which involves tons of number crunching and slides preparation in terms of presenting your information in an aesthetically pleasing and easily understandable format. This is essentially the core of your jobscope and if someone cannot handle sitting down and doing all the groundwork first, there really is no point enticing them with the more glorious face to face client presentations.