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Old 11-06-2021, 07:34 PM
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Default Just there for the ride. Bumpy ride just because not from CS? I'll be happy to GTFO.

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You're from EEE. Even if you managed to sneak through DBS Tech Seed, your colleagues will look down at you and if I'm your manager, I'll find ways to make sure you resign.
I am an EE grad who went for the May 7 TechTrek. Graduating with 2nd lower honours (perhaps not much better than 3rd class, aimed for 2nd upper but it is what it is), had a final year project with heavy emphasis on programming for client and server aspects. Part of the framework used in the project helped with creating the hackathon app, and making requests to and getting responses from the server for the project was of use during the hackathon. Not from CS, but I can say that I do have some programming know-how I can use. I will admit I will have trouble if Big-whatever notation is involved.

I am just there for the ride, and it is 1 year then review for progression to 2nd year, not even a two-year guarantee. If I do get a mentor/manager like that, I'll be glad to just drop it as quickly as possible if the mentor/manager is being this obstructive in what is a programme meant to help build Singapore's tech capability and capacity. Perhaps now with COVID there is less incentive to get overseas staff, hence why this batch has so many based in Singapore. I would like to raise the spectre of an Uptron ACL "grad" somehow managing to get a well-paying job.🤷

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Old 11-06-2021, 08:55 PM
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Engineering grads are intellectually inferior compared to CS grads. You really want them to tarnish the elite status of CS community?

Just a reminder, CS needs AAA/A to enter while Engineering needs CCC/C.

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Engineering grads are intellectually inferior compared to CS grads. You really want them to tarnish the elite status of CS community?

Just a reminder, CS needs AAA/A to enter while Engineering needs CCC/C.
newsflash, no one actually cares in the workplace. u cs or eee if cannot do work also byebye

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Engineering grads are intellectually inferior compared to CS grads. You really want them to tarnish the elite status of CS community?

Just a reminder, CS needs AAA/A to enter while Engineering needs CCC/C.
How cute, thinking that anyone in the workplace would care about your A level scores .
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Having done a bachelor in EEE and a masters in CS, I can say that EEE is much harder.. whoever is ‘looking down’ on on EEE is clearly confused lol
Yeah completely agree, there are higher entry requirements for CS but its purely due to demand supply. In terms of the actual coursework, EE has more academic and interdisciplinary requirements than CS which makes the former much more academically rigorous and of course, harder than the latter.
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Old 12-06-2021, 12:18 PM
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Yeah completely agree, there are higher entry requirements for CS but its purely due to demand supply. In terms of the actual coursework, EE has more academic and interdisciplinary requirements than CS which makes the former much more academically rigorous and of course, harder than the latter.
Keep stroking your own ego to sooth your wounded pride by saying it is more rigorous and harder. No point doing a more rigorous course if you are not even going to be well rewarded in terms of compensation and benefits, especially if you are deemed as a cost centre instead of a profit centre. Look at the prestige of the companies accepting EE grads in the EE industry and compare to the big tech firms, and that is if the EE grad was not already scared off by the content of their course to continue doing EE in their career. Face it. EE will never win CS in either prestige or salary and privileges. If big tech was not a thing, programming modules in EE would be dreaded by the cohort, especially if the EE grad is not aiming to do anything that would involve programming in the job scope, such as power.

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Why are fellow CS alumni not protecting other fellow CS colleagues? Do you all really want some one from a NON-CS majors to take the short cut by clearing some random coding modules online and then stealing our tech jobs? Time to protect our rice bowls pls.

I'm seeing more and more non CS graduates clearing tech interviews (maybe in less prestigious firms) and job hopping and soon they will overtake CS graduates. Be careful of these cancer.
Indeed, CS alumni should be helping to watch out for themselves and their juniors. Bootcamps and "a few modules" does not produce the standard of a CS grad, much less even a Year One one. More should be done to maintain the standards and proficiency required for tech jobs so as to prevent pretenders from sneaking into and masquerading as able to do tech jobs.
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You're from EEE. Even if you managed to sneak through DBS Tech Seed, your colleagues will look down at you and if I'm your manager, I'll find ways to make sure you resign.
An FAQ answer on the DBS SEED page is "If you do not have a root degree in STEM, but have a minor/taken a few STEM modules, you are welcomed to apply." I take it you will be happier to work with an Arts major with a Minor in CS compared to an EEE grad.
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An FAQ answer on the DBS SEED page is "If you do not have a root degree in STEM, but have a minor/taken a few STEM modules, you are welcomed to apply." I take it you will be happier to work with an Arts major with a Minor in CS compared to an EEE grad.
Chill. The guy is obviously not in SEED. Probably an unemployed fresh grad given how bitter he is.
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Keep stroking your own ego to sooth your wounded pride by saying it is more rigorous and harder. No point doing a more rigorous course if you are not even going to be well rewarded in terms of compensation and benefits, especially if you are deemed as a cost centre instead of a profit centre. Look at the prestige of the companies accepting EE grads in the EE industry and compare to the big tech firms, and that is if the EE grad was not already scared off by the content of their course to continue doing EE in their career. Face it. EE will never win CS in either prestige or salary and privileges. If big tech was not a thing, programming modules in EE would be dreaded by the cohort, especially if the EE grad is not aiming to do anything that would involve programming in the job scope, such as power.



Indeed, CS alumni should be helping to watch out for themselves and their juniors. Bootcamps and "a few modules" does not produce the standard of a CS grad, much less even a Year One one. More should be done to maintain the standards and proficiency required for tech jobs so as to prevent pretenders from sneaking into and masquerading as able to do tech jobs.

Fully agree with what you said! In fact the government should regulate and ban non CS majors from entering CS fields, and prosecute those who circumvent these rules, just like how the law, medicine and dentistry industries are protected. I'm sure you don't want a stupid EE major with pathetic A level results performing a heart bypass surgery on you isn't it?

This is the only way to protect the prestige and the high level of technical skills needed to do well in the industry. So what if EE majors can pass tech interviews? Everyone know they are inferior in IQ deep down and this will adversely affect the company long term. Stop the rot early!
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LOL So many CS graduates losing their minds that anyone with a STEM degree is able to successfully apply for SWE jobs.
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