NCS (SingTel subsidiary)

What's the difference between what the senior consultant does compared to a fresh grad consultant, except for the salary?

Do senior consultants tend to handle external parties and clients independently on his own or is there a project manager fronting the user requirement discussion with the clients and directing the work? The senior consultant is to give the technical implementation inputs?

I believe for the fresh grad consultants, they would definitely be led by a PM at least due to their inexperience.

Also, are senior consultants expected to be promoted to project management role after certain number of years, or they can choose to stay at senior consultant level handling the implementation?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What's the difference between what the senior consultant does compared to a fresh grad consultant, except for the salary?

Do senior consultants tend to handle external parties and clients independently on his own or is there a project manager fronting the user requirement discussion with the clients and directing the work? The senior consultant is to give the technical implementation inputs?

I believe for the fresh grad consultants, they would definitely be led by a PM at least due to their inexperience.

Also, are senior consultants expected to be promoted to project management role after certain number of years, or they can choose to stay at senior consultant level handling the implementation?

Junior mostly do all the ground and dirty job .
Senior more on give technical input and advice .

No PM will led you and you need to swim yourself.

Many Old bird and tai zhi master at project management role . Good luck !

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What's the difference between what the senior consultant does compared to a fresh grad consultant, except for the salary?

Do senior consultants tend to handle external parties and clients independently on his own or is there a project manager fronting the user requirement discussion with the clients and directing the work? The senior consultant is to give the technical implementation inputs?

I believe for the fresh grad consultants, they would definitely be led by a PM at least due to their inexperience.

Also, are senior consultants expected to be promoted to project management role after certain number of years, or they can choose to stay at senior consultant level handling the implementation?

Senior Consultant primary role is to do system design and front the customer. Although when project are behind timeline and lack manpower, you are expected to be able to code and help with the development.

Career progression is as follow for degree holder : App Consultant > Senior App Consultant > Lead App Consultant or Assistant PM > Project Manager > Senior Project Manager > Associate Director > Service Delivery Director > Appointment Holder...

After Senior App Consultant, you can choose to go on project mgmt path or technical path(architect role)

Most people get stuck in Lead Consultant/PM until they retire......which pay decently ard 7k.

Your working hours and condition depends on your project, different project can have very different life and progression...aka heaven and hell situation...

Development project are always firefighting so busy that you might not learn alot as you are just rushing for deadline most of the time.

Maintenance project are generally quite slow pace, you learn more depth than breadth as opposed to development project you learn more breadth than depth... Usually busy only when huge CR come....

The project you get assigned to can determine whether you waste your time there or gain valuable experience for fresh grad... people say that its a good place to learn alot (partly true but hugely dependent on which project you get assigned to)

Not a bad company but progression/learning depends is very dependent on your project... Once you get into a project, its really hard to change to a new one.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi,

For those who knows....please share

1) hierarchy structure in NCS ? (e.g. manager--> ? senior manager --> ??? --> ???)
2) Are there special allowance ? (e.g. Singtel Bill rebate ??, transport allowance ??)
3) I read that now the AWS is divide monthly ? means performance bonus is given during december ? or no more AWS ?
4) i read P1 grade or P2 Grade, what does that means ?

I am a fresh PM at NCS. Can i know what is the range of salary for P3 grade? And what is the ranks like?

accenture pays 4.2k starting for fresh grads.

for NCS people looking to jump after 1 year of experience, you may qualify as Senior Analyst which pays at around 4.9k+.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Most people get stuck in Lead Consultant/PM until they retire......which pay decently ard 7k.

Sorry, 7k for an experienced tech talent is not decent. It's a candidates market today - demand way greater than supply. Please don't settle for so little.

Reference:

s://.mycareersfuture.sg/search?search=java&salary=7000&sortBy=new_posting_ date&page=2

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Sorry, 7k for an experienced tech talent is not decent. It's a candidates market today - demand way greater than supply. Please don't settle for so little.

Reference:

s://.mycareersfuture.sg/search?search=java&salary=7000&sortBy=new_posting_ date&page=2

haha well you have to ignored all those startup who pay above average/inflated salary since once the funding run out you may find yourselves out of job and no company can match your current pay.

7k is quite decent since you are mainly doing admin work not actual development/technical work.

But if you talking abt experience technical role then 7k is quite underpaid =P since this is where singapore is lacking in talent pool not the PM/consultant role

Originally Posted by Unregistered

haha well you have to ignored all those startup who pay above average/inflated salary since once the funding run out you may find yourselves out of job and no company can match your current pay.

7k is quite decent since you are mainly doing admin work not actual development/technical work.

But if you talking abt experience technical role then 7k is quite underpaid =P since this is where singapore is lacking in talent pool not the PM/consultant role

Bank paying 10k + for experienced technical role easy.

The career progression from tech to nontech in ncs is rubbish.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Bank paying 10k + for experienced technical role easy.

The career progression from tech to nontech in ncs is rubbish.

Haha well you can paid 10k today and next day u realized your job got offshore/outsourced and you get paid $0 =P

Anyway to get 10k, you have to really good, good like google senior/lead position standard.

Mediocre skills won't get you that pay even if you have 10-20 years experience.....

There are many so called 20 years experience technical people who can't solve technical problem which an undergraduate can =P and design architecture that make no sense or are outdated in today's world

Hi can anyone advise for Lead Business Analyst what is expected pay? Thanks!