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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Unfortunately from a pragmatic angle social ministries have no economic value.

Still got more economic value than private uni grads

Hard private uni grad truths

How is the mobility between private and public?

Public go private easy? Private go public hard?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How is the mobility between private and public?

Public go private easy? Private go public hard?

Easier for private to go public but pay is an issue if you wait too long. For public to private, some roles are valued, depending on agency and if its an area of specialisation where private needs that regulatory knowledge.

My personal advice looking back is to go private first then switch to public in late 20s or early 30s for the stability if you have started a family.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is it true that most farmers are capped at mx11a, and retire at that level unless they are selected for leadership positions? The pay seems low to stagnate at.

not true, most farmer will retire at mx10

Originally Posted by Unregistered

35, NS, Local Uni, 2nd lower

2011 - $3400
2020 - $7284
2021 - $8406 (promoted)

quite similar - considering I am 1 year older

mine also quite similar, but you probably faster

mid career move to PS, 34 this year, pvt U
2019 - $6400
2020 - $6720
2021 - $7720 (promoted mx10)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Is ministry more prestigious and higher paid?

Nope. Not necessarily but ministries got more scholar for leadership position while stat board ceo or ce usually come in from parachute.

For farmer, no matter where you go also same.

I graduated first class from NTU but not on scholarship. Joined ministry at highest level entry salary in 2017 (4100 sgd) work 3 years, my last drawn with ministry was around 5,100.

Pb for 2017 - C
Pb for 2018 - B
Pb for 2019 - B
Pb for 2020 - N/A cause resign in Nov 2020.

Compared to my peers from NTU, they are nowhere near 5k salary (we science degree)

Now I in private, no transferable skill, paycut to 4 K but i am happier

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Nope. Not necessarily but ministries got more scholar for leadership position while stat board ceo or ce usually come in from parachute.

For farmer, no matter where you go also same.

I graduated first class from NTU but not on scholarship. Joined ministry at highest level entry salary in 2017 (4100 sgd) work 3 years, my last drawn with ministry was around 5,100.

Pb for 2017 - C
Pb for 2018 - B
Pb for 2019 - B
Pb for 2020 - N/A cause resign in Nov 2020.

Compared to my peers from NTU, they are nowhere near 5k salary (we science degree)

Now I in private, no transferable skill, paycut to 4 K but i am happier

Did you get promoted in your 3 years there? You left as MX12?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

mine also quite similar, but you probably faster

mid career move to PS, 34 this year, pvt U
2019 - $6400
2020 - $6720
2021 - $7720 (promoted mx10)

This means promoted to deputy director? I had always thought it's reserved for scholars if it's in mid 30s!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Did you get promoted in your 3 years there? You left as MX12?

I was supposed to be promoted but i left.

I dare to make the switch because i saved up quite a lot due to my pb. Then in 2020, the v shape recovery in stock market allow me to just yolo.

A good thing about gov job is that you will dare to invest during market crash cause you know next month your pay check will still come

Anyone can advise on hpb pay range for sm and ad? What is the typical bonus for average performer? Thinking of applying for a job there.