Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It’s what you want to earn in life
And considerations will be
- do you still want to work past 50, or
- do you want to retire by 40.

Simple.

Not MECE


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how is life as a dpp / agc lso?

what are the negative sides of things

Are MC/ US firms in Singapore good for disputes, as compared to Drew?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are MC/ US firms in Singapore good for disputes, as compared to Drew?

Well the vast majority of them will be doing pure arbitration. If that's what you wanna do, then it's not a bad place to work. The cases and clients are sophisticated and high value, and you get paid better without necessarily working harder than at Drew.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

avg around 6-8k

That's the number we are seeing. For pqe 2. About 7k + 1 month bonus

At a fairly large local company that i was working at our GC keep telling us they were paying us the best that they can do and it was market rate. People kept leaving and no new hires were made. Temporary doubling up to help ended up to be permanent as the work was still being done. Requests for promotion and increment were met with "actually you are not doing much".

The team left and on average were able to secure 20-30% more. The jump was worth at least 10 years of the 2 to 3% annual increment we got.

Never work for bosses who have no understanding of what you do on a daily basis and are not appreciative of the work you put in. Never stay in a toxic culture that encourages bashing and underpaying young lawyers.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That's the number we are seeing. For pqe 2. About 7k + 1 month bonus

At a fairly large local company that i was working at our GC keep telling us they were paying us the best that they can do and it was market rate. People kept leaving and no new hires were made. Temporary doubling up to help ended up to be permanent as the work was still being done. Requests for promotion and increment were met with "actually you are not doing much".

The team left and on average were able to secure 20-30% more. The jump was worth at least 10 years of the 2 to 3% annual increment we got.

Never work for bosses who have no understanding of what you do on a daily basis and are not appreciative of the work you put in. Never stay in a toxic culture that encourages bashing and underpaying young lawyers.

I refer to your last paragraph of not staying in a toxic culture. But what if one seriously needs the job and at 2pqe have been unable to find another role despite going for a number of interviews?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I refer to your last paragraph of not staying in a toxic culture. But what if one seriously needs the job and at 2pqe have been unable to find another role despite going for a number of interviews?

it might mean your current pay is too high.
take a 20-30% pay cut. worth it for your sanity
unless you have a mortgage and car loan to pay then stick to your current job

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I refer to your last paragraph of not staying in a toxic culture. But what if one seriously needs the job and at 2pqe have been unable to find another role despite going for a number of interviews?

Try try try again? It took me 3 years, 8 applications to the same us mnc before finally getting in with a 60% pay rise.

In between I have countless of applications running into the high double digits. Interviews running into 20 to 30. Before I found a job that I like and would pay me decently.

At the junior level u just need some years of pqe. Between 5 to 9 would be best to move. U are not to expensive yet can work independently. At pqe 2 you probably still need a fair bit of hand holding. And if the company can pay they rather take at least 5 years.

Would anyone be able to shed some light on what would generally be the salary range be for 6 PQE in an in-house position?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That's the number we are seeing. For pqe 2. About 7k + 1 month bonus

At a fairly large local company that i was working at our GC keep telling us they were paying us the best that they can do and it was market rate. People kept leaving and no new hires were made. Temporary doubling up to help ended up to be permanent as the work was still being done. Requests for promotion and increment were met with "actually you are not doing much".

The team left and on average were able to secure 20-30% more. The jump was worth at least 10 years of the 2 to 3% annual increment we got.

Never work for bosses who have no understanding of what you do on a daily basis and are not appreciative of the work you put in. Never stay in a toxic culture that encourages bashing and underpaying young lawyers.

Most local companies will not pay for "cost centers" - it's a very traditional and backward mindset.
Of all my offers, the MNCs generally offered 20-30% more than local companies. If pay is a big consideration, then spamming MNCs would be your best bet.