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Old 10-09-2014, 05:42 PM
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Only in low-paying jobs, the number of foreign workers have decreased.

For higher-paying white collar jobs, the number of foreigners remains the same.
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Yes, indeed. From my untested unproven sources, i heard the reduction in foreign workers is only 5%. For the high income jobs, foreigners are still coming in droves. (Or at least no reduction)
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ironic thing is singaporeans have been complaining about the high-paying white collar jobs and not the low-paying jobs but they keep like to harp on the low-paying jobs.

for instance I have a friend who is in construction and his company is hit badly by this because of the additional increment they have to pay in order to hire workers from 3rd class countries to do manual labor jobs
precisely, as though we are too stupid or ignorant to realize. you know where my vote goes for GE 2016. -__-

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Old 10-09-2014, 05:51 PM
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IMO FCF is easily bypassed if the company really want to hire a foreigner over some local candidates. This has been happening in USA for decades. Although government has regulations that an opening needs to be advertised locally to residents first and gives those priority, if a company decided on a foreign talent, it will simply tailor-cut the job description to that candidate's portofolio and put some unrealistic/funny requirements that rule out normal applicants.

The only practical approach to give locals priority is setting hard limit on the quota of foreign talent in each company. But that is a very risky policy that most likely will damage the economy as Singapore is very dependent on the global economy therefore global competency is crucial.

Eventually I think local candidates have to improve their own skill to secure their dream job.

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Eventually I think local candidates have to improve their own skill to secure their dream job.
That still doesn't solve the problem. Because:

1. Companies do not want to invest in training and developing locals. And i am not referring to mere certifications/qualifications.

2. MNCs would rather place people from their Headquarters in Management team here. Usually this is politically motivated. And these are the roles and positions that locals really aspire.

I have seen in my company how they would rather not develop locals for senior Mgmt roles. They would second people from everywhere else in Europe for 2 years. After the 2 years, they leave for some Country Manager or Country GM roles in Europe and a new fresh batch of 20 year olds are flown in to replace the outgoing Managers.

The locals? They stay stuck as senior executives forever and the reason is the locals don't have the skillset to move up although no training or development were in place at all. Of course they say there is but in reality those are just for HR records. Its really a load of bullshit lol. Needless to say, the turnover is high for the locals and then we are slapped as 'quitters' and its therefore 'difficult' to find locals.

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Actually I believe that the number of foreign talent has grown over the last years.
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Way to go, revive 6 year old thread. The rate of increase might have been controlled but the absolute number of FTs are glaringly obvious. You have entire project teams with at least 70% Indians. Locals are your low level HR, admin staff, cleaners and front desk people for the ratio.
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Yes, companies do not want to invest in training and developing locals, but if they will want to have great results they will eventually need to develop and train their workers. This is one of the clearest ways to grow your business numbers. Numbers play an important part in every aspect of our lives, starting from the day we were born, to the number of employees that our company has hired to do the required job. I even know that there are some managers who believe in the spiritual meaning of the numbers they get involved with every day. At https://www.sunsigns.org/angel-number-1222-meaning/ you can find out more information about the meaning of the number 1222 in our lives.

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I have been working in some global MNCs, and I can partially agree to some of these points.

Point 2 is true. usually, those are transfers from Head Office. It depends on the original country. But the FCF will necessitates hiring of locals. To be fair, these investments belong to the rightful owners, and I think it's their prerogative to decide who is their management..naturally, expats are deployed to SG for a specific reason. As long as they adhere to hiring local quotas, I think its still acceptable. They are here obviously for a reason, to bring in FDIs. People should be accepting to them, so long they adhere to hiring local quotas.

Something that we might overlook is this. There are many M'***n educated PMETs chinese (with degrees) who request to be transferred to SG, by nature of the global operations of MNCs. Or if they can speak a foreign language, MNCs likely hire them and place them in SG. I have seen many cases. To be honest, on first sight, are locals likely to see them as same? The answer is likely yes since its hard to tell. Are they competing with S'porean born local/private uni graduates, and can we fill up those role with our own folks with skills upgrading? The answers are likely yes. Is it fair? I think likely the answer is No.


We need good PMETs, who can value-add to the nation yet treat locals with respect & good attitude. If we manage to find such people, we should do our best to keep them. If they are just here to leech, we should be cautious.


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That still doesn't solve the problem. Because:

1. Companies do not want to invest in training and developing locals. And i am not referring to mere certifications/qualifications.

2. MNCs would rather place people from their Headquarters in Management team here. Usually this is politically motivated. And these are the roles and positions that locals really aspire.

I have seen in my company how they would rather not develop locals for senior Mgmt roles. They would second people from everywhere else in Europe for 2 years. After the 2 years, they leave for some Country Manager or Country GM roles in Europe and a new fresh batch of 20 year olds are flown in to replace the outgoing Managers.

The locals? They stay stuck as senior executives forever and the reason is the locals don't have the skillset to move up although no training or development were in place at all. Of course they say there is but in reality those are just for HR records. Its really a load of bullshit lol. Needless to say, the turnover is high for the locals and then we are slapped as 'quitters' and its therefore 'difficult' to find locals.

Unbelievable @@


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From what I see, there are no drop but slight increase in FT
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