Need some advice if I should early quit

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am an ex-NCS employee whom underwent Nucleus.

I would say NCS is a good place to start and learn as a fresh graduate. I would encourage anyone to join NCS as a fresh graduate.

For me, my advice is not to look so much into salary at this point of time. I would suggest you to look for opportunities which can allow you to grow quickly. NCS has a good structure in training and development. And I did not regret joining them.

Anyway, $4.8k is already a decent figure I feel. They were only offering 4k to 4.1k 2 years ago.

Just wanted to add that 4.8k is NOT at all a decent figure. 1-2 years ago a lot of companies didn't even offer 6k to fresh grads, now they are.

5.5k is decent, 6k is average, 6.5k+ onward is really good. There's plenty of low-tier tech companies paying outright 6k already for fresh-grads with just 1 simple technical interview... I'm not even talking about FCH CS grads btw, your typical SIT partnership degree grad with 2.5+ GPA can get these jobs already.

TS go with whatever job you want, it's entirely up to you but don't accept a lower pay just because "opportunities". Every company has opportunities to learn and grow...

The fact of the matter is that when you start off at a low base, there's not much growth. Compare someone getting 5.5k with a 3% pay increment and someone at 4.8k getting 3% increment.

5500 -> 5665 = $165 bump
4800 -> 4944 = $144 bump

Assuming typical 1 year pay increment period,

$165 x 12 = $1980
$144 x 12 = $1728

A $252 difference... Now add in the initial base pay difference,

$700 a month, 1 year = $8400 difference.

Also like it or not, in Singapore, a lot of companies will ask for your last drawn salary and peg you to that last drawn pay. You start at a low trash base pay, you MAY get hardstuck at that trash pay.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just wanted to add that 4.8k is NOT at all a decent figure. 1-2 years ago a lot of companies didn't even offer 6k to fresh grads, now they are.

5.5k is decent, 6k is average, 6.5k+ onward is really good. There's plenty of low-tier tech companies paying outright 6k already for fresh-grads with just 1 simple technical interview... I'm not even talking about FCH CS grads btw, your typical SIT partnership degree grad with 2.5+ GPA can get these jobs already.

TS go with whatever job you want, it's entirely up to you but don't accept a lower pay just because "opportunities". Every company has opportunities to learn and grow...

The fact of the matter is that when you start off at a low base, there's not much growth. Compare someone getting 5.5k with a 3% pay increment and someone at 4.8k getting 3% increment.

5500 -> 5665 = $165 bump
4800 -> 4944 = $144 bump

Assuming typical 1 year pay increment period,

$165 x 12 = $1980
$144 x 12 = $1728

A $252 difference... Now add in the initial base pay difference,

$700 a month, 1 year = $8400 difference.

Also like it or not, in Singapore, a lot of companies will ask for your last drawn salary and peg you to that last drawn pay. You start at a low trash base pay, you MAY get hardstuck at that trash pay.

agreed largely with you however you are speaking about technical roles in tech only. just a word of caution, doesnt apply to most other sectors, say engineering for example.

just curious, what company offers 6k base with just 1 technical interview lol most places ive seen is 5.5 or above 5.5 with multiple rounds, never 6k with just 1 round lolol

[djhaller]

Then if I manage to find a new job role, lower pay but I think it has good career growth and good reputation than NCS, does that consider as I have low balled myself?

Let's assume said new job is 3.5k?

Originally Posted by djhaller

Then if I manage to find a new job role, lower pay but I think it has good career growth and good reputation than NCS, does that consider as I have low balled myself?

Let's assume said new job is 3.5k?

If you start from a lower pay, next time want to negotiate pay, they will look into your previous pay unless you got lucky.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

agreed largely with you however you are speaking about technical roles in tech only. just a word of caution, doesnt apply to most other sectors, say engineering for example.

just curious, what company offers 6k base with just 1 technical interview lol most places ive seen is 5.5 or above 5.5 with multiple rounds, never 6k with just 1 round lolol

I am pretty sure the NCS Nucleus role is a tech role, not a engineering role.

So I have no idea why did you even bring up "Engineering" ITT. Completely irrelevant.

Binance, Motional, Zendesk, BlackMagic just to name a few, all offers 6k+ for fresh grads. I know cause I applied and passed.

Then again I don't know if it applies to you, I did 6 months intern at Google as cloud dev, maybe they let me skip the multiple rounds but I doubt it, I still had to do 3 rounds at Bytedance which is common.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am pretty sure the NCS Nucleus role is a tech role, not a engineering role.

So I have no idea why did you even bring up "Engineering" ITT. Completely irrelevant.

Binance, Motional, Zendesk, BlackMagic just to name a few, all offers 6k+ for fresh grads. I know cause I applied and passed.

Then again I don't know if it applies to you, I did 6 months intern at Google as cloud dev, maybe they let me skip the multiple rounds but I doubt it, I still had to do 3 rounds at Bytedance which is common.

wow these companies really only 1 technical round? and no need to be from local uni cs?

and also, in what world is binance and zendesk "low-tier" as you mentioned?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am pretty sure the NCS Nucleus role is a tech role, not a engineering role.

So I have no idea why did you even bring up "Engineering" ITT. Completely irrelevant.

Binance, Motional, Zendesk, BlackMagic just to name a few, all offers 6k+ for fresh grads. I know cause I applied and passed.

Then again I don't know if it applies to you, I did 6 months intern at Google as cloud dev, maybe they let me skip the multiple rounds but I doubt it, I still had to do 3 rounds at Bytedance which is common.

ya NCS nucleus is tech role lol wtf its not engineering la

software engineering doesnt mean engineering ...... also can confirm, motional pay 6k+, some can get 7k, i got friends from overseas partnered uni at SIT getting 6-7k+ already .. 1 ez technical question..

but just saying ah they are not ur typical cs grads, they will pwn FCH NUS / NTU cs people...

so ya lots of places can get 6k+ , if i not wrong EXPRESSVPN also 6k+ and 2 interview 1 behavoral 1 technical but if u think u can get just cos u FCH or grind leetcode for 1-2 months, dream on lol also binance??? its 8k and good luck, u no referral 0 chance confirm

who tf lump software engineering with actual engineering like electrical / mechanical? Obviously software engineering will have way higher base pay.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

agreed largely with you however you are speaking about technical roles in tech only. just a word of caution, doesnt apply to most other sectors, say engineering for example.

just curious, what company offers 6k base with just 1 technical interview lol most places ive seen is 5.5 or above 5.5 with multiple rounds, never 6k with just 1 round lolol

NCS nucleus is not engineering bro what are u talkin about ?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

NCS nucleus is not engineering bro what are u talkin about ?

pays about the same as micron tbh