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Originally Posted by Unregistered

There is SDN which is very common these days. AI and ML are also a thing in networking too.

Errr your point is? Network engineers are very smart? You have to be very clever to understand SDN?

Are network engineers creating the AI/ML models? Or are the data scientist/software engineers the ones making the model and then getting the network engineers to press buttons only.

Don't know a single cs grad whose first choice is to be a network engineer.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Errr your point is? Network engineers are very smart? You have to be very clever to understand SDN?

Are network engineers creating the AI/ML models? Or are the data scientist/software engineers the ones making the model and then getting the network engineers to press buttons only.

Don't know a single cs grad whose first choice is to be a network engineer.

i guess there is some departure in what people used to call a "network engineer" , mostly ppl imagine low level stuff working in server rooms, cabling etc.

but fundamentally all software engineers MUST have a good enough concept of networking in the real sense - as in the OSI model, and S protocols, the concept of ports, networks and subnets, DNS, TLS handshake, TCP/UDP etc. basically networking to SWE == how computers talk to each other. and make no mistake, this is absolutely fundamental. no SWE i know touch any cables or interact with any physical network but we all have these concepts.

and then u get to the cloud and u realize everything is networks all the way down. my point is any tech engineer worth their salt is gna have the basic concepts of networking.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i guess there is some departure in what people used to call a "network engineer" , mostly ppl imagine low level stuff working in server rooms, cabling etc.

but fundamentally all software engineers MUST have a good enough concept of networking in the real sense - as in the OSI model, and S protocols, the concept of ports, networks and subnets, DNS, TLS handshake, TCP/UDP etc. basically networking to SWE == how computers talk to each other. and make no mistake, this is absolutely fundamental. no SWE i know touch any cables or interact with any physical network but we all have these concepts.

and then u get to the cloud and u realize everything is networks all the way down. my point is any tech engineer worth their salt is gna have the basic concepts of networking.

Err ok.. so understanding network protocols is important. That's quite different from saying network engineers are smart. Knowing how flush toilet is super important (more important than networking). Does that make professional toilet flushers geniuses?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Errr your point is? Network engineers are very smart? You have to be very clever to understand SDN?

Are network engineers creating the AI/ML models? Or are the data scientist/software engineers the ones making the model and then getting the network engineers to press buttons only.

Don't know a single cs grad whose first choice is to be a network engineer.

You don't know any cs grads whose first choice is to be a network engineer... And?

How is your anecdotal evidence relevant to anything at all.

You wanna act like a smart ass at least cover your own grounds first.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Most of the average posters are rejects from local uni or went to ST eng for their first job what did you expect? Even a competent poly student can code better than an ST engineer.

Can all the ST engineers please identify themselves when they are posting so I don't need to read their posts

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i guess there is some departure in what people used to call a "network engineer" , mostly ppl imagine low level stuff working in server rooms, cabling etc.

but fundamentally all software engineers MUST have a good enough concept of networking in the real sense - as in the OSI model, and S protocols, the concept of ports, networks and subnets, DNS, TLS handshake, TCP/UDP etc. basically networking to SWE == how computers talk to each other. and make no mistake, this is absolutely fundamental. no SWE i know touch any cables or interact with any physical network but we all have these concepts.

and then u get to the cloud and u realize everything is networks all the way down. my point is any tech engineer worth their salt is gna have the basic concepts of networking.

"worth their salt" lol u think people on this forum are worth their salt

Originally Posted by Unregistered

"worth their salt" lol u think people on this forum are worth their salt

by posting, aren't you "on this forum"? lol self-own.

so how is the townhall? any update?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

so how is the townhall? any update?

Simi townhall? Discuss what? How they failed to get into FAANG?

I heard rumours overpaid tech juniors are getting axed soon due to company lost 1 billion...

Time of the overpaid techies is upon us.
Coupled with inflation....

Anyone can confirm?