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15-10-2013, 03:32 PM
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Unisim Accountancy prog already equally recognised by ACRA with the three other local unis Acc progs, sure harder to enter. the local unis Acc progs already need abt 3.7 to enter, entry requirements always get pushed up if more ppl applying, for all you know, those who cant get into the local unis Acc with gpa like 3.4 to 3.6 might apply too, after all with Unisim they will get the same no. of external exemptions like NUS/ NTU/ SMU. somemore local unis always tend to give more places to jc applicants whereas unisim is more pro-poly due to their practice-oriented approach.
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15-10-2013, 05:34 PM
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Unisim Accountancy prog already equally recognised by ACRA with the three other local unis Acc progs, sure harder to enter. the local unis Acc progs already need abt 3.7 to enter, entry requirements always get pushed up if more ppl applying, for all you know, those who cant get into the local unis Acc with gpa like 3.4 to 3.6 might apply too, after all with Unisim they will get the same no. of external exemptions like NUS/ NTU/ SMU. somemore local unis always tend to give more places to jc applicants whereas unisim is more pro-poly due to their practice-oriented approach.
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Unis are neither pro-jc nor pro-poly. They simply favour the better students. SIM can usually only attract poly students. It doesn't mean they're pro-poly when they don't get too many JC applicants, since JC students settle for better unis.
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15-10-2013, 05:59 PM
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It's true that the local unis used to favour JC students more, only in recent years they admit more poly students. I know cos I'm born in the early 1980s and this is the trend for people around my age or earlier. Last time poly dun even have GPA system. Only when I left NUS and a few years later, they allocate more % of places to poly students.
Its also the system in play. It used to be the consensus that if you want to go to uni, you take the A level and diploma is for those who want to enter the workforce straight. But in non-commonwealth developed countries which the govt is studying out of UK context, a diploma is commonly seen as the entry to universities. In singapore, there is also a trend that many who perform well in O level opt for the poly route. I guess these are some of the contributory factors as to why they start to admit more poly students.
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15-10-2013, 06:27 PM
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SIM can usually only attract poly students. It doesn't mean they're pro-poly when they don't get too many JC applicants, since JC students settle for better unis.
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dun anyhow. UniSIM has alot of poly students cos they are normally upgrading while working. since they came from poly, their diplomas allow them to have full time work whereas those with just A lvl will find it hard to go out to work.
JC students settle for better unis? normally those rich kids can fly to whatever places to attain their degrees, even those who dun do as well can apply to foundation programmes of whatever brand name universities with $$$ and then gain entry from there. there are still many JC kids in SIM but unfortunately, those are not rich.
anyway UniSIM =/= SIM(GE)
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15-10-2013, 11:54 PM
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dun anyhow. UniSIM has alot of poly students cos they are normally upgrading while working. since they came from poly, their diplomas allow them to have full time work whereas those with just A lvl will find it hard to go out to work.
JC students settle for better unis? normally those rich kids can fly to whatever places to attain their degrees, even those who dun do as well can apply to foundation programmes of whatever brand name universities with $$$ and then gain entry from there. there are still many JC kids in SIM but unfortunately, those are not rich.
anyway UniSIM =/= SIM(GE)
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JC=/=Rich kids. Honestly, if I had money, I would've read Law in an Australian uni instead of being stuck here doing engineering. I keep seeing all my rich poly/JC friends who cant even get into local uni but get to go to UK/Australia to study what they want. That's why the stigma of being an overseas grad will always be stuck to them. Unless you from Oxbridge/Harvard/MIT/Caltech, you basically went overseas because you weren't smart enough to get into local uni. I have more respect for those who went to unisim. At least they didn't try to buy their way to the top.
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16-10-2013, 12:02 AM
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IT HAS BEGUN!
knew this would happen. Last year when Lee Hsien Loong announced that UniSIM will become a 'local uni', I expected that more people will apply and hence the entry requirements will become more and more stringent till it will eventually be just a tad bit easier to enter than NTU/ NUS/ SMU. Whoever got into unisim much earlier on should be damn happy because the value of their degree will be shooting skyward from now.
Whoever is vying to get into Unisim or considering unisim, better apply now, it will just get much harder and harder to get in from here on out. GOOD LUCK.
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Yes this 'new' uni is elevating, slowly but surely. I also got to know MOE has some plans in place for UniSIM. But the 'transformation' and 'recognition' will take more than 5 years at least, When SMU first started out, it wasnt exactly smooth and they have to embark on years of extensive marketing to gain recognition. UniSIM new full time publicly-funded degree programmes (same for SIT) will be rather different from the existing AUs, theirs will be based on the new 'applied degree framework' which MOE is working on currently.
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16-10-2013, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
JC=/=Rich kids. Honestly, if I had money, I would've read Law in an Australian uni instead of being stuck here doing engineering. I keep seeing all my rich poly/JC friends who cant even get into local uni but get to go to UK/Australia to study what they want. That's why the stigma of being an overseas grad will always be stuck to them. Unless you from Oxbridge/Harvard/MIT/Caltech, you basically went overseas because you weren't smart enough to get into local uni. I have more respect for those who went to unisim. At least they didn't try to buy their way to the top.
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Hey there, well if you lack behind academically because of finance issues, then prove your worth when you work next time, Not to worry actually cos Engineering grads can be in demand in non-Engineering sectors too.
Actually the local higher education landscape is currently a little bit shady, MOE wants to inject alot of new development but cannot afford to affect the stable structure of the existing AUs so they have to roll things out step by step carefully.
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16-10-2013, 01:35 PM
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applied degrees are very successful in US, these kind of courses tap on heavily on industries and focus alot on practice. locally, it will be like the 'university' version of polytechnics.
heard that UniSIM will focus on business and social sciences whereas SIT will focus on engineering and technology.
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04-11-2013, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
It's true that the local unis used to favour JC students more, only in recent years they admit more poly students. I know cos I'm born in the early 1980s and this is the trend for people around my age or earlier. Last time poly dun even have GPA system. Only when I left NUS and a few years later, they allocate more % of places to poly students.
Its also the system in play. It used to be the consensus that if you want to go to uni, you take the A level and diploma is for those who want to enter the workforce straight. But in non-commonwealth developed countries which the govt is studying out of UK context, a diploma is commonly seen as the entry to universities. In singapore, there is also a trend that many who perform well in O level opt for the poly route. I guess these are some of the contributory factors as to why they start to admit more poly students.
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Honestly, nothing much has changed. What they did is that they increased the no. of places across the board. More JC & poly students & even foreigners are able to make it into uni now, because as a whole more places are available. For JC students, the intake is traditionally known to be at least ~80% of each JC cohort. For diploma holders, increased uni intake for diploma holders means currently ~10+% from each cohort make it instead of the previous ~5%.
With like 4-5 JCs made up entirely of L1R5 single pointers, as compared to the handful of single pointers who choose the poly route, it's still a good assumption that the best students in Singapore are in the JCs. A JC student is more likely to be picked because he's better academically to begin with. It's not because he was from a JC. You've to realise that a lot of those in the polys still do not qualify for a JC even if they wanted to go to a JC.
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