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15-07-2023, 09:09 AM
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Is it good to stay in STE for promotion ?
How soon does one get promoted anyways ?
Do they value past work experience and take that into consideration?
How’s the increment like?
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15-07-2023, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
How soon does one get promoted anyways ?
Do they value past work experience and take that into consideration?
How’s the increment like?
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ProMotion from E5 to E6 usually within 2-4 years.
Subsequent performance depends on pre-sales ability. Winning tenders and participating in tenders have better recognition than successfully delivering projects. There are a lot of engineers stucked at E6 at 50 years old.
The only work experience they would pay above market rate is experience in leading a uniform service unit. ST in general pays below market rate, below the 25th percentile. Your only hope of getting a salary increment from job hopping is that your previous company pays similar scale or even lower than ST.
Increment usually 1-5%, unless your dept boss willing to write in for recommendation for merit increment which can range between 3-10%. Bonus also between 1 to 3.5 months. Those whom are on contract, has 1 month less bonus than perm staff. Those switching from contract to perm will usually have 0 increment on their new contract.
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15-07-2023, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
How soon does one get promoted anyways ?
Do they value past work experience and take that into consideration?
How’s the increment like?
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previous poster talking about hardware roles? software roles typically promote e5 to e6 in 2-3 years nowdays and e6 to m1 in about 4 years? top performers have more than 5% of increment and double digit percent for promotions.
What I said is true for being a good performer from e5. It is true HR counts wearing a uniform daily to work as relevant experience though, especially for m2 and above roles. defence contracts are cash cows and they do it so often to mask kickbacks
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16-07-2023, 02:18 PM
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What is the increment % for the different bands?
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18-07-2023, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
ProMotion from E5 to E6 usually within 2-4 years.
Subsequent performance depends on pre-sales ability. Winning tenders and participating in tenders have better recognition than successfully delivering projects. There are a lot of engineers stucked at E6 at 50 years old.
The only work experience they would pay above market rate is experience in leading a uniform service unit. ST in general pays below market rate, below the 25th percentile. Your only hope of getting a salary increment from job hopping is that your previous company pays similar scale or even lower than ST.
Increment usually 1-5%, unless your dept boss willing to write in for recommendation for merit increment which can range between 3-10%. Bonus also between 1 to 3.5 months. Those whom are on contract, has 1 month less bonus than perm staff. Those switching from contract to perm will usually have 0 increment on their new contract.
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2 to 4 years for promotion is already very good. Because my former division played favourites, whoever is not in the pet team can expect a promotion between 5-7 years on average, longer if too many M1/2s around. The only exception I saw are those exceptional (clever) in solving issues.
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21-07-2023, 03:25 PM
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Stone age company. Dare to offer me job with significant paycut for 'new international office'. Cannot promise any career trajectory. Hear culture inside is rotten to the core.
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26-07-2023, 10:33 PM
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Just a rant post:
I really don’t like how some managers think they big shot and then go around demanding others to sacrifice their personal time to settle work because they incapable. Best joke: the manager is from a different division so should not even boss people around.
Any tricks on handling such bitches? Especially the aunties one
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27-07-2023, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Just a rant post:
I really don’t like how some managers think they big shot and then go around demanding others to sacrifice their personal time to settle work because they incapable. Best joke: the manager is from a different division so should not even boss people around.
Any tricks on handling such bitches? Especially the aunties one
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Similar experience before.
PM: I don't care if the whole team needs to come back on the weekends to finish up everything. I want it by Sunday night.
Same PM: I'm not free this weekend, I'm going JB.
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27-07-2023, 04:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
Just a rant post:
I really don’t like how some managers think they big shot and then go around demanding others to sacrifice their personal time to settle work because they incapable. Best joke: the manager is from a different division so should not even boss people around.
Any tricks on handling such bitches? Especially the aunties one
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why do u care? Just inform ur current PM and ask whether to comply lo
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Similar experience before.
PM: I don't care if the whole team needs to come back on the weekends to finish up everything. I want it by Sunday night.
Same PM: I'm not free this weekend, I'm going JB.
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What happens if whole team don't come back? Fire you?
When he depends on u to do the work so that he can keep his job, u're the one with leverage over him, not the other way round
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