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Originally Posted by Unregistered

PM no use one.
The PM I working with. Always say "I am not technical"
He just schedule meeting. Type minutes of meeting and ask for your update. Reply email.
Give progress update only.

So easy.

Then claim credit and promote faster.

Originally Posted by thinkinghard

good performance no use, even with sh!t performance as long your boss, your boss boss like u, you can promote easily

This is easily one of the best answer I've seen. Real and factual.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When your M1 leaves or quit then got an opening. Then can consider you lo.
If your seniors all stay put want to retire. No chance for you.

It's a waiting game. So E6 mostly just slack.
Let all the E5 do the work. Cause work so hard also no promotion.
Then E5 fresh work hard... Year by year no promotion and they see E6 and M1 like do nothing.

Come late. Long lunch. Leave early or on time.
Then the E5 also quit and the cycle of life repeats.

If the top don't leave. Only the bottom can be recycled.
Which is why fresh grad is important! They inject fresh blood into the org.
But fresh grad now asking for 5k pay lol.

So end up they just hire exp staff from outside for 4k range.
You only see the top getting higher.
You don't see the bottom rise to the top.

From a team of 10 engineers I knew...

1x M3
3x M2
3x M1
1x E6
2x E5

Everywhere easily like this. How many hurdles to get to M1... And the E6 was newly promoted because he was really good in his field of work.

E5 jump ship after 2 years...

ST brand name not as sexy on resume but some projects still sizeable enough for HR to take a closer look at you.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

How long from E6 to M1?

joined as E6...and im still at E6.......it been at least 5 years

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is easily one of the best answer I've seen. Real and factual.

agree 100%

Originally Posted by Unregistered

When your M1 leaves or quit then got an opening. Then can consider you lo.
If your seniors all stay put want to retire. No chance for you.

It's a waiting game. So E6 mostly just slack.
Let all the E5 do the work. Cause work so hard also no promotion.
Then E5 fresh work hard... Year by year no promotion and they see E6 and M1 like do nothing.

Come late. Long lunch. Leave early or on time.
Then the E5 also quit and the cycle of life repeats.

If the top don't leave. Only the bottom can be recycled.
Which is why fresh grad is important! They inject fresh blood into the org.
But fresh grad now asking for 5k pay lol.

So end up they just hire exp staff from outside for 4k range.
You only see the top getting higher.
You don't see the bottom rise to the top.

5k is the norm starting pay nowadays , why shortchange yourself by being underpaid and work long hours.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

5k is the norm starting pay nowadays , why shortchange yourself by being underpaid and work long hours.

yah, norm in your father's company only

Originally Posted by Unregistered

joined as E6...and im still at E6.......it been at least 5 years

Why are u still there then?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

yah, norm in your father's company only

It is really quite common for tech grads nowadays to get 5k starting at MNCs. They have profit center skills...

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