ST Electronics

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It's just sad that ST seniors refuse to see things as how they are.
Seriously, 10k for 6 years experience in tech is perhaps high, but not uncommon at all.
You can reach out to a few tech recruiters, and check with them on the current market rates.
Then you will have a better picture of how well tech sector is still doing, in spite of covid.
Companies are so desperate for good talents, none will seriously care if you work just 1 month at your current job.

Sell durian can earn 1 million per annum.
Be tech? Work until die and earn only 120k per annum.

Sell chicken rice better.

Originally Posted by unregistered

from the viewpoint of someone who has always been in a glc, then yes, maybe it's impossible.
Except in the real private sector, 20-40% increment is not uncommon.
A 40-100% increment for a new job isn't uncommon too.
I got the following increments throughout these 6 years, many through job changes.
6% -> 9% -> 6% -> 46% -> 9% -> 16% -> 28% -> 22%
i have a number of peers who are paid much better than me, all in tech roles.

Mocking aside, i'm also trying to highlight the fact that the tech space is still recruiting aggressively.
If you are good enough, there are many companies which can pay good money for your talent.
So if you think you're really good, and severely underpaid, seriously why not get out?
If a fresh grad is getting paid more than you, and you can't do anything to improve the situation, it's simply a market signal that your skill sets are getting irrelevant.
So you can either just whine and complain, or you take some real actions, for the sake of yourself and your family.

cool story bro hahaha

Originally Posted by Unregistered

From the viewpoint of someone who has always been in a GLC, then yes, maybe it's impossible.
Except in the real private sector, 20-40% increment is not uncommon.
A 40-100% increment for a new job isn't uncommon too.
I got the following increments throughout these 6 years, many through job changes.
6% -> 9% -> 6% -> 46% -> 9% -> 16% -> 28% -> 22%
I have a number of peers who are paid much better than me, all in tech roles.

Mocking aside, I'm also trying to highlight the fact that the tech space is still recruiting aggressively.
If you are good enough, there are many companies which can pay good money for your talent.
So if you think you're really good, and severely underpaid, seriously why not get out?
If a fresh grad is getting paid more than you, and you can't do anything to improve the situation, it's simply a market signal that your skill sets are getting irrelevant.
So you can either just whine and complain, or you take some real actions, for the sake of yourself and your family.

Yeah right I went for an interview in a "tech" company London based.
Payment / cashier stuff industry
Considered private. Their customer retail shop etc.. Office in kallang area.
For tech leaf role 10 years exp.
They gave me technical test to write SQL...
And offer only 4.8k lol.

Sure maybe your company print money.

ok la ok la, all fake news. impossible to earn 10k salary for engineers. fresh grads are useless and overpaid. ST seniors are the best. ST seniors too good for outside jobs. outside jobs are equally underpaid anyway. fresh grads are useless and overpaid, yes must say twice. ST senior wan sui!!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Confirm story writer la. I don't even recall how many increment I got 10 years ago.
This guy either keep record of his incremental as bragging rights or its fake la.

Annual average is 5 to 8 %

Your story is you're average background. But you show so high increment with each job
Means you are good at lying.

Lying in one job after another. Then when the lies caught up to you. Quit and find another job.
Show LinkedIn please.

Cannot deny there are many companies out there with more decent increment compared to ST. At least for myself, I experienced an almost 20% increment and promotion when I left. Although the job scope is slightly different, at least my new pay was pegged roughly around industry standard.

Even without the promotion considered, my basic at least increased 5%, better than the 1 to 2% which is the norm now.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

ok la ok la, all fake news. impossible to earn 10k salary for engineers. fresh grads are useless and overpaid. ST seniors are the best. ST seniors too good for outside jobs. outside jobs are equally underpaid anyway. fresh grads are useless and overpaid, yes must say twice. ST senior wan sui!!

Good boi. Pat pat.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yeah right I went for an interview in a "tech" company London based.
Payment / cashier stuff industry
Considered private. Their customer retail shop etc.. Office in kallang area.
For tech leaf role 10 years exp.
They gave me technical test to write SQL...
And offer only 4.8k lol.

Sure maybe your company print money.

why do u even accept to go to interview for such company?? they are probably worse than ST. go read techinasia, see the amount of fundings being raised every other day. dont need to print money, investors are just giving money away. and guess where a good portion of these investors' money are going to? salary.

a company which raised 10m, you think they cant afford to pay 30yo 150k, or even care it's 150k?

Lol this stubbornness from both sides not unusual at all. Those stuck below 5k after years of experience cannot comprehend how fresh grads feel that 5k starting is "okay only". Those that breeze through their interview for 6.9k starting salary cannot understand why other people cannot "just login into linkedin and accept 6k role... don't even need to interview"

Top techies would have already read this but just sharing for the rest:
://elijames.org/the-two-tiers-of-singapores-tech-companies/

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Lol this stubbornness from both sides not unusual at all. Those stuck below 5k after years of experience cannot comprehend how fresh grads feel that 5k starting is "okay only". Those that breeze through their interview for 6.9k starting salary cannot understand why other people cannot "just login into linkedin and accept 6k role... don't even need to interview"

Top techies would have already read this but just sharing for the rest:
://elijames.org/the-two-tiers-of-singapores-tech-companies/

5k starting from where? u know what they do to get 5k? or give u 5k starting but do work like how u Did for your studies to get FCH?
if you are earning 10k salary, then why u still got time to come here and talk? I'm sure most people talking here have more time for themselves or finding something new to do or get some job information only.
those been paid well will nv have time to talk here or else they are just a lose that being paid 10k. They with lot's of $$ but no one really want to spend time with them.

Joined ST about 11 years ago with starting pay of 1.8k for poly degree holder. Got my degree from SIM part-time and worked for 10 years to reach E6, only to draw a basic of 3.9k. Left ST and because the expertise I have is considered very niche, it didn't take long before I joined a small SME which offered me 5.1k right away.