NCS (SingTel subsidiary)

Originally Posted by zero_88

workload is depend one

I heard management is quite problematic, maybe now have changed

overall management still problematic .

Just treat it as stepping stone and move on .

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Very hard to adjust pay if you dun go in as a degree graduate, they will give lots of excuse to not adjust your pay to degree, the whole process might take 1 yr - 2 yrs after you graduate to adjust your pay to the fresh grad pay.

Just let them know you will join after get your degree and request $4k .

Don’t forget $4k is included AWS .

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just let them know you will join after get your degree and request $4k .

Don’t forget $4k is included AWS .

Will any company put such a thing in their contract??? If anything, it will just be at most a verbal thing which ultimately means nothing?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Will any company put such a thing in their contract??? If anything, it will just be at most a verbal thing which ultimately means nothing?

Just tell HR your expected salary is $4k .

If they said you don’t have degree and low ball you .Then you tell them you will join them after you get degree and expected salary is $4k .

If they can’t commit do a adjustment after you get degree . Just join after you get your degree . Ncs turn over rate very high , don’t worried about the job .

No verbal . Every thing black and white .

I local uni fresh grad, 2nd lower. Got offered 4k

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I am a fresh PM at NCS. Can i know what is the range of salary for P3 grade? And what is the ranks like?

The range can be quite wide and dependent on the hiring person.

P2 PM was offered at $6K/month for 8 to 10 years experience.
P4 can range from 8K to 10K depending on experience
P5 range from 9K to 12K

This is based on recent salaries I came to know about.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

overall management still problematic .

Just treat it as stepping stone and move on .

Haha ya the good ones run away left only the problematic ones lol!!! The sales VP is especially nasty to delivery team.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The range can be quite wide and dependent on the hiring person.

P2 PM was offered at $6K/month for 8 to 10 years experience.
P4 can range from 8K to 10K depending on experience
P5 range from 9K to 12K

This is based on recent salaries I came to know about.

P2 is not a PM. It is senior consultant. 3 years experience senior consultant (join as fresh grad. Promoted at 1.5 yrs) 5.6k (highest i heard) from my batch.
P3 is Team Lead / Assistant PM level (6.8k) ard 10 years experience
P4 is PM and your range is correct
P5 is senior PM and your range is correct

However note that there is no AWS. and for the last performance review if you get rating of 4/5 (1 being highest, 5 being lowest) you get 0 month bonus. Rating of 3, you get 1 month bonus with no increment. Rating of 2 , you get 2.5 months with increment.
Not sure about rating of 1.

Cheers hope this helps so that you dun get short changed. Generally try to negociate for higher pay as they are more willing to give. After you join, the progression is generally 3% per year (base on performance rating of 3) minus this year since this year singtel profit dip hence the bonuses was very bad

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks for the replies
I have yet to hear from them again as it the weekend.

Yea i will probably check about the pay adjustment. Hope they are willing to give a increment once i gradute...

Any idea how is the work ? workload ?
I heard mixed review about NCS. Please share if you have any..
I plan to join just to get experience.

thanks

If you technical skillset is meh, you can consider joining and volunteer for bigger project and be a slave for 2 years to gain the experience and leave after that. After you leave, you can expect around 20-30% jump in pay if you are not yet promoted. I got around 35% pay jump after i left after 2 years.(abit more since the new job got AWS)

Workload - Project dependent, some project like heaven 10am go in 6pm go home + 2 hours lunch. Some project 9am go in 11pm go home + no time for lunch + dinner.
See Heng Suay.

If your technical skillset is slightly above average, can consider join bigger companies like accenture, workload definitely high but more recognized internationally compared to ncs and higher pay.

To me if you work 9 am to 11pm might as well go accenture chiong sua. Although it is not rare to work until 3am in accenture

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Haha ya the good ones run away left only the problematic ones lol!!! The sales VP is especially nasty to delivery team.

Aiyo, which sales VP? Left two now. It is very messy now so beware to anyone joining.