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Old 11-12-2007, 01:05 AM
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Saying that luck plays a part in becoming wealthy is not the entire picture. Do you know that you can actually "boost" your luck?

I've said a couple of times that luck plays a part. See this and this.

But if you're young, time is on your side. If you keep trying, you'll be lucky one day. Whether you're starting out on your own, or climbing the corporate ladder, just keep on trying.

If you fail one time, try again.

Hopefully - chances are good - you'll succeed one day.

Of course, if you set impossible targets like becoming a billionaire by age 18 (or even 81) or becoming the King of England, then you're bound to fail. Be realistic.

Here's an interesting analogy. Read on. There's a twist.

Many of you may know this: it's been proven mathematically that in lotteries - 4D and Toto - the odds are always against you.

For example, if you bet "small" in 4D, you only have a 1 in 10,000 chance of either striking $3,000 for top prize, or $2,000 for second prize, or $1,000 for third prize.

For every $1 you put in, you are expected to get back only $0.60 in the long run.

Ah, that is, IF you are the average person! What if you're not average? What if you can do better than average? Or much better?

The average Singaporean earns $2,000 to $3,000. Are you average? Why be average?

In the same 4D example, although the average person will lose $0.40 per dollar he bets, there are also people who will make money. They are the lucky ones. (And then there are those unlucky ones who will lose their pants too.)

What I'm trying to tell you is: If you never try, you'll never know whether you're luckier than others.

Maybe that's why people buy lotteries. No try, no strike.

It's the same for achieving success in life. You gotta keep trying. No try, no strike. Or better, try until you strike.

So, to boost your luck, just keep on trying...

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not too wise to assume that you are out of the ordinary...

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True--most of us think that we're special, although in reality we're just regular joes like everybody else.

But, never try, never strike right?

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I have heard this "No try no strike" saying many times from my friends.

Unfortunately those who subscribe to that philosopy are mostly losers.

Once you wait for that accidental pot of gold you are not going to strive as hard as you could have in your real work or vocation. Never mind the statistics stacked against you.
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I have heard this "No try no strike" saying many times from my friends.

Unfortunately those who subscribe to that philosopy are mostly losers.

Once you wait for that accidental pot of gold you are not going to strive as hard as you could have in your real work or vocation. Never mind the statistics stacked against you.
Maybe your friends also say the same thing about you.
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Old 09-09-2011, 02:19 PM
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Maybe your friends also say the same thing about you.
Maybe you are right. I am just a loser. Thank you.
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I have heard this "No try no strike" saying many times from my friends.

Unfortunately those who subscribe to that philosopy are mostly losers.

Once you wait for that accidental pot of gold you are not going to strive as hard as you could have in your real work or vocation. Never mind the statistics stacked against you.
Subscribing to this philosophy does not mean going out and buying a toto ticket every day.

It means having the initiative and courage to continue looking for new jobs and niches even if you are comfortable in your job, it means exploring a side business or going into business full time, it means asking that girl outside of your league out for a date.

And it means having the persistence to do so repeatedly even though you are consistently knocked back, each time sitting back to strategize how things went wrong and how you can better position your next advance.

The easiest thing in the world is to sit in your comfort zone, work hard at one job and hope that your boss will recognize your efforts and reward you. This is not school where if you work hard you can get full marks in a test with a controlled environment.

This is the real world where you need to have the courage and initiative to try what others won't, otherwise you will always be getting the results that others get - average.
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Okay, you know what? This is the biggest load of s**t I have ever heard. If I took a bucket full of cow dung, got a bad stomach ache, and then loosed my bowels into it until it all sloshed over, there would still be less s**t in it than this guest post.

(1) Let's go back to Sec 1 maths okay? The odds of winning Toto are 1:8,000,000, or thereabouts. When the odds are stacked against you, what happens if you persist in playing within the same market?

Or to be clear: say you're playing Russian Roulette. The chances of losing are 5 in 6 (as is the case with the lottery). You spin once and you don't die. If you spin again, do you think your odds (1) improve, because you're kind of like Rain Man, except retarded without the maths skills, or (2) get worse?

When the odds are stacked against you, you lose more as you play more. So no, it's not a case of succeeding by trying again and again.

(2) Do you know why there are professional Poker players but no professional lottery players? Look at a card deck:

Your chances of drawing an ace are 2 in 52. Every card that's not an ace, is a card closer to the ace.

NOT the case with lottery numbers. Just because an intended number wasn't "2" this time around, doesn't mean you get "closer" to "2". The numbers can reset. There is no "memory" in the way the numbers are picked.

(3) You think I should invest money in a scheme where, after a certain period of time, I may or may not get any money? What would you say if one of those OCBC or DBS investment people called you up and said:

"Hey do you want to invest in a faeces laden plan, where you give us money and we'll randomly decide who to pay it out to?"

Would you actually say yes to that? No? Well why the hell would you buy a lottery ticket then?

(4) No try no strike is it? I wonder if you've heard of this one: Winning means not losing too.

Let's play a game. I'll stick 50 bucks in a blender, turn it on at half speed, and then you try to stick your hand in and grab it. Got cut? Freaking try again. And again. and again. No try, no strike. What a dips**t.

It's called same process same outcome. If you lost at it once, then odds are you'd better try something different. Otherwise it's like being a fly bouncing off a window pane, trying to find an opening.

See the maths: “Investing” in the Lottery?: The Math behind Toto and 4D in Singapore | MoneySmart.sg
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Okay, you know what? This is the biggest load of s**t I have ever heard. If I took a bucket full of cow dung, got a bad stomach ache, and then loosed my bowels into it until it all sloshed over, there would still be less s**t in it than this guest post.

(1) Let's go back to Sec 1 maths okay? The odds of winning Toto are 1:8,000,000, or thereabouts. When the odds are stacked against you, what happens if you persist in playing within the same market?

Or to be clear: say you're playing Russian Roulette. The chances of losing are 5 in 6 (as is the case with the lottery). You spin once and you don't die. If you spin again, do you think your odds (1) improve, because you're kind of like Rain Man, except retarded without the maths skills, or (2) get worse?

When the odds are stacked against you, you lose more as you play more. So no, it's not a case of succeeding by trying again and again.

(2) Do you know why there are professional Poker players but no professional lottery players? Look at a card deck:

Your chances of drawing an ace are 2 in 52. Every card that's not an ace, is a card closer to the ace.

NOT the case with lottery numbers. Just because an intended number wasn't "2" this time around, doesn't mean you get "closer" to "2". The numbers can reset. There is no "memory" in the way the numbers are picked.

(3) You think I should invest money in a scheme where, after a certain period of time, I may or may not get any money? What would you say if one of those OCBC or DBS investment people called you up and said:

"Hey do you want to invest in a faeces laden plan, where you give us money and we'll randomly decide who to pay it out to?"

Would you actually say yes to that? No? Well why the hell would you buy a lottery ticket then?

(4) No try no strike is it? I wonder if you've heard of this one: Winning means not losing too.

Let's play a game. I'll stick 50 bucks in a blender, turn it on at half speed, and then you try to stick your hand in and grab it. Got cut? Freaking try again. And again. and again. No try, no strike. What a dips**t.

It's called same process same outcome. If you lost at it once, then odds are you'd better try something different. Otherwise it's like being a fly bouncing off a window pane, trying to find an opening.

See the maths: “Investing” in the Lottery?: The Math behind Toto and 4D in Singapore | MoneySmart.sg
Finally we have someone here who stayed awake during Probability 101 class.
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Remember there was this investment firm called SUNSHINE empire? Their slogan was also no try no strike what... heard they are all now millionaires manz..

You don't put in money how do you know whether will jackpot ornot? Sometimes must try what..


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Okay, you know what? This is the biggest load of s**t I have ever heard. If I took a bucket full of cow dung, got a bad stomach ache, and then loosed my bowels into it until it all sloshed over, there would still be less s**t in it than this guest post.

(1) Let's go back to Sec 1 maths okay? The odds of winning Toto are 1:8,000,000, or thereabouts. When the odds are stacked against you, what happens if you persist in playing within the same market?

Or to be clear: say you're playing Russian Roulette. The chances of losing are 5 in 6 (as is the case with the lottery). You spin once and you don't die. If you spin again, do you think your odds (1) improve, because you're kind of like Rain Man, except retarded without the maths skills, or (2) get worse?

When the odds are stacked against you, you lose more as you play more. So no, it's not a case of succeeding by trying again and again.

(2) Do you know why there are professional Poker players but no professional lottery players? Look at a card deck:

Your chances of drawing an ace are 2 in 52. Every card that's not an ace, is a card closer to the ace.

NOT the case with lottery numbers. Just because an intended number wasn't "2" this time around, doesn't mean you get "closer" to "2". The numbers can reset. There is no "memory" in the way the numbers are picked.

(3) You think I should invest money in a scheme where, after a certain period of time, I may or may not get any money? What would you say if one of those OCBC or DBS investment people called you up and said:

"Hey do you want to invest in a faeces laden plan, where you give us money and we'll randomly decide who to pay it out to?"

Would you actually say yes to that? No? Well why the hell would you buy a lottery ticket then?

(4) No try no strike is it? I wonder if you've heard of this one: Winning means not losing too.

Let's play a game. I'll stick 50 bucks in a blender, turn it on at half speed, and then you try to stick your hand in and grab it. Got cut? Freaking try again. And again. and again. No try, no strike. What a dips**t.

It's called same process same outcome. If you lost at it once, then odds are you'd better try something different. Otherwise it's like being a fly bouncing off a window pane, trying to find an opening.

See the maths: “Investing” in the Lottery?: The Math behind Toto and 4D in Singapore | MoneySmart.sg
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