How is life as a doctor in Singapore?

Base salary is similar across specialties and clusters. It is the components that determine the final take home salary.

Does anyone know how much a senior optometrist at PHI earn?

Recently a Dr managed to purchase a GCB

Many red eyes ...But bear in mind he earned a lot by scaling a business ..

Anyone can be a businessman. He didn't need his MD .. very proud of this ?Dukie?

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Recently a Dr managed to purchase a GCB

Many red eyes ...But bear in mind he earned a lot by scaling a business ..

Anyone can be a businessman. He didn't need his MD .. very proud of this ?Dukie?

V Aesthetics lol. Know a girl working there. She used to be laugh at by others because she drop out of FM training due to multiple exam failures. fast forward few years later she is making comfortably 35k sgd a month, while her FM peers are only making around 200k a yr as FM AC.

Shows what? Exams don’t dictate your pay. An enterprising aesthetic doc can make more than a hardworking specialist.

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V Aesthetics lol. Know a girl working there. She used to be laugh at by others because she drop out of FM training due to multiple exam failures. fast forward few years later she is making comfortably 35k sgd a month, while her FM peers are only making around 200k a yr as FM AC.

Shows what? Exams don’t dictate your pay. An enterprising aesthetic doc can make more than a hardworking specialist.

Agree, especially in the age of AI, entrepreneurship skills is more important nowadays.
Me now in late 40s, lucky got some savings from routine gp work. Hopefully can farm another 5 years. Personally I am not quite sure how do advise younger doctors nowadays. I forsee gp Industry to be heavily disrupted in the next decade. (We won't be replace, but it will be a case of more people fighting over a smaller pie, I sense, especially as people get more educated with their health with AI)

Either do medical business or do admin lo.

Bread and butter queue-clearer might be in trouble

I feel that the knowledge gap between a doctor and a patient is getting narrower with the use of AI. (Especially the younger tech savvy ones). Sometimes I am also not sure how to value add as a GP, especially for the acute cases, as the information from LLM with the right prompting is actually quite accurate at times.

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I feel that the knowledge gap between a doctor and a patient is getting narrower with the use of AI. (Especially the younger tech savvy ones). Sometimes I am also not sure how to value add as a GP, especially for the acute cases, as the information from LLM with the right prompting is actually quite accurate at times.

you are there because the patients cant get things like MC, certification, insurance claims and meds without your approval. and also AI cant do physical exam on the patients yet.

the most important thing is the whole industry is undercharging. why are queue clearers forced to see 6 patients and above in an hour, when a GP in australia can see 4/hour and call it a busy day.

you see lawyers, they charge how much per consultation. and they dont even need to win the case to charge you an arm and a leg.

ive seen GPs being asked to provide memo for legal cases such as road traffic accidents, and the GP only charged less than 100 dollars for the whole consult, meds etc along with the memo to state the diagnosis and justify why to the lawyer.

why sshould such work be worth less than 100 dollars? there is a lot of liability even in such seemingly simple cases.

s://.sma.org.sg/news/2019/February/about-that-100000-fine-for-an-injection


ibring up this article because something caught my eye

it stated that the ortho surgeon willingly offered to pay a 100k fine instead of a 5 month suspension because a senior ortho surgeon in private can earn it back within 3-5 months

im thinking well...
business must be very bad if it takes a senior consultant ortho surgeon takes 3-5 months to earn 100k , might as well go back to public hospital lol can make that back in less than 3 months .

I seriously feel doctors in Singapore are grossly underpaid (or maybe HK is just way too overpaid)

Worked in banking in both HK and SG, and regularly visits clinics in both places as a sick man + occasionally covering healthcare companies in my job. SG doctors are generally a lot more knowledgeable (and GRH specialists really do their pubs etc.) and patient if you are private paying.

HK doctors give you maybe 6-10mins for a specialist consultation costing S$250 and you are only seeing a 35yo specialist who just finished 1Y intern + 6Y specialist training + 2-3 post-specialist experience. You guys are having it tough, by the time someone in HK is almost done with his ENT or cards training, you guys are still queuing for a spot.

I remember asking ENTs in HK for long term solution to my dust mite allergy. Visited a few and I was told there is no long term solution. Use Avamys, netipot, change your bed sheets and use antihistamine if needed. Lol. Only 1 of them told me maybe I can try sublingual immunotherapy but his chain doesn’t stock it. Went back to SG and almost every ENT knows acarizax or allergy shots and equivalent stuff. GRH doctors even answered me a few questions when I followed up with some questions on long term efficacy.

When I was reviewing the financials, I was quite shocked some clinics with 4 docs in HK can pull in S$40m revenue a year, then the senior doc who owns the clinic makes S$10-15m a year, the 35yo colorectal surgeons and clinical oncologists were making S$0.8-1.5m each. I am not sure how much SG pays but looking at this post it is highly unlikely even a derm can pull that money as a salaried doc at such age.

During an investor call, some aesthetic clinic chain in HK mentioned doctors just don’t want to become glorified beauticians because FMs here are paid S$30k a month in PHI right after FHKAM, and clinical chains often pay 40k, solo GP clinics can go north of S$60-80k if you see 60 patients a day. So they paid HK$700k (S$110k) monthly to their experienced aesthetic GPs who are fully utilized). Lol you can guess the reaction of how these financial bros react once they heard the numbers.

I know this post is really off topic and weird. But I truly appreciate you guys. Your professionalism and hard work really made a difference to me and I am sure it made a difference to many singaporeans as well. You are the silent heroes to our society.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I seriously feel doctors in Singapore are grossly underpaid (or maybe HK is just way too overpaid)

Worked in banking in both HK and SG, and regularly visits clinics in both places as a sick man + occasionally covering healthcare companies in my job. SG doctors are generally a lot more knowledgeable (and GRH specialists really do their pubs etc.) and patient if you are private paying.

HK doctors give you maybe 6-10mins for a specialist consultation costing S$250 and you are only seeing a 35yo specialist who just finished 1Y intern + 6Y specialist training + 2-3 post-specialist experience. You guys are having it tough, by the time someone in HK is almost done with his ENT or cards training, you guys are still queuing for a spot.

I remember asking ENTs in HK for long term solution to my dust mite allergy. Visited a few and I was told there is no long term solution. Use Avamys, netipot, change your bed sheets and use antihistamine if needed. Lol. Only 1 of them told me maybe I can try sublingual immunotherapy but his chain doesn’t stock it. Went back to SG and almost every ENT knows acarizax or allergy shots and equivalent stuff. GRH doctors even answered me a few questions when I followed up with some questions on long term efficacy.

When I was reviewing the financials, I was quite shocked some clinics with 4 docs in HK can pull in S$40m revenue a year, then the senior doc who owns the clinic makes S$10-15m a year, the 35yo colorectal surgeons and clinical oncologists were making S$0.8-1.5m each. I am not sure how much SG pays but looking at this post it is highly unlikely even a derm can pull that money as a salaried doc at such age.

During an investor call, some aesthetic clinic chain in HK mentioned doctors just don’t want to become glorified beauticians because FMs here are paid S$30k a month in PHI right after FHKAM, and clinical chains often pay 40k, solo GP clinics can go north of S$60-80k if you see 60 patients a day. So they paid HK$700k (S$110k) monthly to their experienced aesthetic GPs who are fully utilized). Lol you can guess the reaction of how these financial bros react once they heard the numbers.

I know this post is really off topic and weird. But I truly appreciate you guys. Your professionalism and hard work really made a difference to me and I am sure it made a difference to many singaporeans as well. You are the silent heroes to our society.

Maybe that's why they trying to push for FM specialists in Singapore