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Old 23-10-2020, 01:47 AM
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will trainees normally be paid allowance during part B? because i noticed some firms mention it while others don’t, not sure if it’s usual practice but just omitted on some firms’ website or that some firms simply don’t give allowance during part B?

also, we won’t be reimbursed for our part B fees and have to fork them out ourselves if we are not retained?
Bigger firms generally give an honorarium during your part B ($500 ish only), it isn't that bad if you don't get an honorarium during Part B but it does say something about the firm's size that they do not make such payments. Some firms outrightly mention it, some firms don't bother to do so - you have to use your mouth and ask. But in general, if you're looking at bigger firms, you should have that payment.

Personally, I feel that it is more important to make sure your firm pays at least $1.5k (it's around 2k for the bigger firms like the big4) for TC, as any less means that the firm is really cheapskate.

And yes, if you aren't retained, you have to fork out the Part B and call fees. But honestly, if you aren't retained in the bigger firms, you should just start using the company time to find new jobs etc or at least try to go home on time (i.e. don't slog for the 1-2k TC payment if you aren't retained - they obviously don't value your time anyway). Also, just so it's clear, you should check that you are even reimbursed upon retention, as smaller firms do not even do so, do not assume every firm will reimburse you.

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Fake news wahahaha make urself feel better la u secondee...
Oh I left for offshore before I could go for secondment ... but just before I went they offered me secondment to california for 6 months lol. Not sure if they heard something through the grapevine, was probably trying to placate me

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Bigger firms generally give an honorarium during your part B ($500 ish only), it isn't that bad if you don't get an honorarium during Part B but it does say something about the firm's size that they do not make such payments. Some firms outrightly mention it, some firms don't bother to do so - you have to use your mouth and ask. But in general, if you're looking at bigger firms, you should have that payment.

Personally, I feel that it is more important to make sure your firm pays at least $1.5k (it's around 2k for the bigger firms like the big4) for TC, as any less means that the firm is really cheapskate.

And yes, if you aren't retained, you have to fork out the Part B and call fees. But honestly, if you aren't retained in the bigger firms, you should just start using the company time to find new jobs etc or at least try to go home on time (i.e. don't slog for the 1-2k TC payment if you aren't retained - they obviously don't value your time anyway). Also, just so it's clear, you should check that you are even reimbursed upon retention, as smaller firms do not even do so, do not assume every firm will reimburse you.
Uh no... at any B4 you will be reimbursed even if you are not retained, it's in the contract.

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Oh I left for offshore before I could go for secondment ... but just before I went they offered me secondment to california for 6 months lol. Not sure if they heard something through the grapevine, was probably trying to placate me
Really i was offered a secondment to the moon.... fake news
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Really i was offered a secondment to the moon.... fake news
oof someone is really bitter they got retrenched eh


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oof someone is really bitter they got retrenched eh
No im an equity partner earninf usd1.8m a year. I come in here frequently to see how spoilt and self entitled millenials are
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No im an equity partner earninf usd1.8m a year. I come in here frequently to see how spoilt and self entitled millenials are
Enough is enough. Most people come to this forum to seek genuine questions about their careers and these are legitimate concerns, not because they are self entitled. And we are spoilt? Who are the ones working 14-16 hours a day so that you can take home your USD1.8 annual salary? The EPs switch off their lights everyday mostly by 8pm whilst we are still working fingers to bones. Who are the ones bearing the burnt of the economy and taking the risks of getting retrenched all the time since retrenchment in law firms always work from bottom to top? Who are the ones slogging the early stages of their careers out just to get retrenched? Who are the ones who have to slog for 10-20 years just to pay off the mortgage for a HDB because the boomers get to purchase condos at when houses were still at a decent value?

I’m not saying boomers had it easy at all - for you to have climbed up to this position must have been equally difficult (whether or not you have been good at your work or politics). By no means I’m complaining too - this is how society has been structured and there is no one to blame. It is how it is. However, to slam such a baseless proposition on us all the time, claiming we are a “strawberry generation” or “spoilt brats” is just unthinkable. Every generation has its own struggles, there is no comparison. Hence, by putting out such a proposition, it shows nothing but a clear reflection of your outmoded, non-empathetic, prideful, unkind and of course, self-entitled mentality.
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Uh no... at any B4 you will be reimbursed even if you are not retained, it's in the contract.
huh.. i thought B4 contract's reimbursement hinges on the condition that the trainee is retained and stay for 12 months
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Enough is enough. Most people come to this forum to seek genuine questions about their careers and these are legitimate concerns, not because they are self entitled. And we are spoilt? Who are the ones working 14-16 hours a day so that you can take home your USD1.8 annual salary? The EPs switch off their lights everyday mostly by 8pm whilst we are still working fingers to bones. Who are the ones bearing the burnt of the economy and taking the risks of getting retrenched all the time since retrenchment in law firms always work from bottom to top? Who are the ones slogging the early stages of their careers out just to get retrenched? Who are the ones who have to slog for 10-20 years just to pay off the mortgage for a HDB because the boomers get to purchase condos at when houses were still at a decent value?

I’m not saying boomers had it easy at all - for you to have climbed up to this position must have been equally difficult (whether or not you have been good at your work or politics). By no means I’m complaining too - this is how society has been structured and there is no one to blame. It is how it is. However, to slam such a baseless proposition on us all the time, claiming we are a “strawberry generation” or “spoilt brats” is just unthinkable. Every generation has its own struggles, there is no comparison. Hence, by putting out such a proposition, it shows nothing but a clear reflection of your outmoded, non-empathetic, prideful, unkind and of course, self-entitled mentality.
Typical millenial attitude, no wonder the government wants to replace you lot with non-complaining cecas and reward them with high-paying jobs instead of you.
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Typical millenial attitude, no wonder the government wants to replace you lot with non-complaining cecas and reward them with high-paying jobs instead of you.
My millenials work till 6 or 7pm. I work till 1am. My ceca works till 4am wake up 630am.

Thats why i earn 1.8m
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