Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

LOL this 'associate director' can do M&A, IPO, fund raising, general corporate matters, general liti matters, IP, compliance and "drafting all types of contracts". Can win any assoc in a big4 alr pls.

Haha I think he can win many big 4 junior partners even with his on-paper profile.

Maybe its his uncle's firm leh? Like those small time contractor / construction company, bosses' or relatives' son with 1 year of exp are given the title of Vice President, Director or whatnot.

Hello,

I'm a third-year law student who's very entertained reading through this thread; thank you all very much. Lots of good info and advice here, especially the recent posts about working hours.

Anyway, I've just accepted a TC at Tan Kok Quan Partnership. I just wanted to ask:
1. How is TKQP seen by its own lawyers (if there are any here) and others?
2. Any tips on surviving training and the first few years? Anything I should keep in mind?

Thanks in advance. Glad to answer questions, of course; if anyone has any for me.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

lmao he was in my part b class. actually gave out his name cards when he was a trainee. no one liked him.

That means I am also in your part B class! Because I was in the same class as him in Part B. I remember the name card bit, and he told me he has experience as in house legal counsel as well as working in a law firm. In my mind I was like, this guy is full of it!.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That means I am also in your part B class! Because I was in the same class as him in Part B. I remember the name card bit, and he told me he has experience as in house legal counsel as well as working in a law firm. In my mind I was like, this guy is full of it!.

Haters gonna hate!

What's with the name and shame now? Not cool guys. For all we know, this guy is a mike ross.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hello,

I'm a third-year law student who's very entertained reading through this thread; thank you all very much. Lots of good info and advice here, especially the recent posts about working hours.

Anyway, I've just accepted a TC at Tan Kok Quan Partnership. I just wanted to ask:
1. How is TKQP seen by its own lawyers (if there are any here) and others?
2. Any tips on surviving training and the first few years? Anything I should keep in mind?

Thanks in advance. Glad to answer questions, of course; if anyone has any for me.

I hear the trainee for 2018 was offered retention but chose to leave. But it is hearsay so take it with a pinch of salt.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What's with the name and shame now? Not cool guys. For all we know, this guy is a mike ross.

Yup these local grads can't take it. When they get passed over by someone with connections.

Originally Posted by kok hwee

hi. my seniors are in london now. they have poor english. all they do at uni is copy notes from their seniors. do you think i can do the same and not study just copy notes and pass the law exams?

The exams only prepare you to have the foundation of understanding what the laws are and how to apply the knowledge you've learnt.

In the working world, "just copying" will only get you low-level legal work: the execution and not the thinking work. While it may seem like the pay is good, such work is long, repetitive, tedious and often boring. But often you need to do this in order to understand what the real problems or real issues are, and how to solve them. That type of thinking work is harder, more challenging, needs more creativity, but can be a whole lot more interesting and fun to do. Plus it tends to be better paid.

There will be some people who will only ever be capable of execution legal work, and they will never progress to thinking legal work, because they don't want the hard work of thinking. Decide what kind of legal you want to do in your career, then work accordingly.

When I interview candidates for roles in my team, I look less at the standard of their English, and more at how they demonstrate their capacity to understand issues and (to a lesser extent, depending on the seniority of the candidate) whether they have ideas on how to solve the issues.

Can't wait to quit at the one year mark...or rather 9 months mark with 3 months notice

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can't wait to quit at the one year mark...or rather 9 months mark with 3 months notice

Quit and do what? Genuinely curious