MBA(priv uni)+Engineering(NUS) can do what niche job?Who will employ?

TS, you really living in some lala land now that I read through the entire post. At first I thought you are just a typical fresh grad thinking too highly of himself. Now I see the problem is much more serious.

The way you are going about job hunting is so far off the tracks I wondered what happened in your life to cause this. Contrary to your warped thinking, niche jobs do require people with specialties. This can be in the form of specific technical skills, professional qualifications, political maneuvering or even plain connections.

The way you describing careers seems to be to brush off everything as basic stuff that you can bullsh!t your way through. There is no initiative from your posts so far to understand further and appreciate any job, it’s all loud bloviating and smartass blusters followed by cynical dismissals of any criticism of your inaptness.

Look at your self in the mirror objectively and see what you have to offer:

1) Normal bachelor degree taken 6 years ago
2) 6 years of non-managerial operations experience as an engineer
3) Bought a private masters that has ridiculously low admission criteria

This is a typical mediocre career profile that is slightly below average. Not that it is particularly bad or what, but neither is it anywhere near star quality. Stripping away all that subjective self-praise nonsense you have for yourself, the above 3 qualities are all you have. Why should anyone hire you as a business leader, M&A specialist or corporate strategist?

How many people have you led in your life so far to qualify you as a business head? How many M&A deals have you brokered so far? How many high level board meetings have you attened so far? I am talking about actual stuff you have done as an engineer, not self-assessment that you can easily do this do that yada yada.

Originally Posted by wahkao

its a priv school
its a well known fact that for priv school, anyone with moola can join.

the GMAT is just for show.

I am not counting on the MBA to secure the job. I dont think I can either.

I am counting on the MBA as a ticket to interview. I am counting on the MBA to be enough for the HR not to throw my resume away within 5 seconds and call me down for interview. Quite ironic that I pay tons of money so that the HR will read my resume more than 5 seconds.


And jobs with "MBA preferred" or "MBA desirable" are the ones HR will more likely give me that interview. I looked around the jobs posting and saw those 4 jobs with engineering + MBA preferred/desirable.

The question is, Are there Any more out there? What are the ones I missed?

ROFL. You trying to play the buy MBA game with the PRC, Pinoy & India FTs!? Most of them have like 2-3 Masters that they bought back home at 20% of your price.

[aspenx]

@TS. I like your positiveness. But I can't comment much on your background, potential nor which "niches" to look at though.

As a "chao engineer", have you taken charge of any projects before or participated in making any high level business decisions? If so, you could brand yourself as BA/PM crossover. I highly doubt your MBA will help for that though and in fact even put you at a disadvantage (background is chao engineer afterall and companies will not want to pay much especially since you only have paper qualification for BA and little experience).

If your chao engineering and technology knowledge and experience is good enough, you can consider the path of _trying to become_ a patent attorney. Again, your MBA will not be useful and you will have to study IP law for another 1 to 1.5years. Looking at your GMAT score, I doubt it's feasible for you.

No real niches out there for MBA + BEng (without spectacular experience and other qualities) in my opinion.

Originally Posted by aspenx

@TS. I like your positiveness. But I can't comment much on your background, potential nor which "niches" to look at though.

As a "chao engineer", have you taken charge of any projects before or participated in making any high level business decisions? If so, you could brand yourself as BA/PM crossover. I highly doubt your MBA will help for that though and in fact even put you at a disadvantage (background is chao engineer afterall and companies will not want to pay much especially since you only have paper qualification for BA and little experience).

If your chao engineering and technology knowledge and experience is good enough, you can consider the path of _trying to become_ a patent attorney. Again, your MBA will not be useful and you will have to study IP law for another 1 to 1.5years. Looking at your GMAT score, I doubt it's feasible for you.

No real niches out there for MBA + BEng (without spectacular experience and other qualities) in my opinion.

Positiveness is not the right word, ignorant bliss is more accurate.

As for whether he has participated in making high level biz decision, the fact that after 6 years he is asking how to get a "niche" job that can pay >5k can already tell you the answer is a confirmed no.

The guy is bordering on nutty, don’t waste time on long response lah.

Bottom line - he is stuck as a low end engineer going anywhere soon.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

TS, you really living in some lala land now that I read through the entire post. At first I thought you are just a typical fresh grad thinking too highly of himself. Now I see the problem is much more serious.

The way you are going about job hunting is so far off the tracks I wondered what happened in your life to cause this. Contrary to your warped thinking, niche jobs do require people with specialties. This can be in the form of specific technical skills, professional qualifications, political maneuvering or even plain connections.

The way you describing careers seems to be to brush off everything as basic stuff that you can bullsh!t your way through. There is no initiative from your posts so far to understand further and appreciate any job, it’s all loud bloviating and smartass blusters followed by cynical dismissals of any criticism of your inaptness.

Look at your self in the mirror objectively and see what you have to offer:

1) Normal bachelor degree taken 6 years ago
2) 6 years of non-managerial operations experience as an engineer
3) Bought a private masters that has ridiculously low admission criteria

This is a typical mediocre career profile that is slightly below average. Not that it is particularly bad or what, but neither is it anywhere near star quality. Stripping away all that subjective self-praise nonsense you have for yourself, the above 3 qualities are all you have. Why should anyone hire you as a business leader, M&A specialist or corporate strategist?

How many people have you led in your life so far to qualify you as a business head? How many M&A deals have you brokered so far? How many high level board meetings have you attened so far? I am talking about actual stuff you have done as an engineer, not self-assessment that you can easily do this do that yada yada.

Well, TS...

I am an Engineer too..

I have seen friends (with engineering degrees) with MBA landing themselves into cushy investment banking jobs ..

However, that takes CONNECTIONS !!!
And my friends took NTU MBAs.. Not private unis MBA..

Engineering is not really that bad..

While most engineers are underpaid and we have to compete with cheaper engineers from 3rd world countries with dubious degrees..
At the end of the day, try to find your passion in engineering..

Once you developed your niche skills in your field of engineering, the career can be fulfilling too.

All the best...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Well, TS...

I am an Engineer too..

I have seen friends (with engineering degrees) with MBA landing themselves into cushy investment banking jobs ..

However, that takes CONNECTIONS !!!
And my friends took NTU MBAs.. Not private unis MBA..

Engineering is not really that bad..

While most engineers are underpaid and we have to compete with cheaper engineers from 3rd world countries with dubious degrees..
At the end of the day, try to find your passion in engineering..

Once you developed your niche skills in your field of engineering, the career can be fulfilling too.

All the best...

hi i am also an engineer with 9 years exp. what degree can i study to get into investment banking?

Looks like the people here who keep sayings negative things here are losers who look down on engineer. I know many engineers who are in high level jobs like investment banker, SVP, well known consultant and Director in MNC, top sales agent...

To TS always stay positive and dont give up, anything is possible. Many of this people are just scared you will overtake them.

[lordlad]

nobody is looking down on engineer (my title is System Engineer in an investment bank so go figure)...

if you read through the thread...we were merely appalled by TS's perspective and almost dismissive of the skills and dedication needed for some of the higher skilled position that he desired...

[aspenx]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Looks like the people here who keep sayings negative things here are losers who look down on engineer. I know many engineers who are in high level jobs like investment banker, SVP, well known consultant and Director in MNC, top sales agent...

To TS always stay positive and dont give up, anything is possible. Many of this people are just scared you will overtake them.

I am an engineer too. I don't want to look down on myself, really.

However, as mentioned by above poster, it's the attitude and perspective that many here have an issue with.

If anything, this thread should at least serve to make people in similar positions rethinking their strategies. I'm still in the process of doing so...

Anyways, most of the replies so far on this thread seem constructive (to me). This forum isn't that bad a forum to get opinions if more people contribute positively. If TS can't take the criticism (both objective and otherwise), he sholdn't post here in the first place.