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22-11-2012, 10:38 AM
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Looks like you got con into wasting money on some useless masters private program and now still no better than a fresh degree grad. My suggestion is to learn from mistake and write off the whole masters thing and stick with the technical sales which you at least have some experience and can command better pay.
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22-11-2012, 07:02 PM
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the definition of niche means special skillset or job area that very few can do. you come into a mass forum with lousy credential expecting somebody to teach you trade secrets to get a niche job?
here is some contsructive advice for you - get your ass` off the bed & go get an entry level exec job or junior engineer job.
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Yes u are right I come here asking for someone to advice on maximizing what I have now.
I am already off my ass' and working very hard on an engineering job.
In life, its not only about working hard. Working smart is important too. Any smart suggestions beyond this?
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22-11-2012, 08:59 PM
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which company would want to hire you if you have no interest?
if your gf finds out that you are dating her only because she is the "backup choice", you think she'll still be interested in you? only if you're damn handsome or have lots of money, but as you've said, you're not elite.
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i forgot to add this:
bear in mind your own company have their own backup plans too.
If they are not profitable , they will fire you and there's nothing you can do about it.
Similarly, if I am not profitable, I find alternatives and create my own backup plans. Who cares what my company thinks. My own job security and salary more important
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22-11-2012, 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by wahkao
its already a sunk cost. Cannot be written off
any constructive advice on how to move on from here?
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erm continue your engineering job? if not just teach tuition, drive taxi, MLM or sell insurance loh
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22-02-2013, 11:58 PM
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For a fresh graduate, you can try to work as an intern for banking and finance industry. As you will have a chance to do your work rotation. So, in fact, it is like a training ground for you!
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23-02-2013, 12:30 AM
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Cannot expect magic pills. Try your luck and find an entry or middle level jobs in the field you interested in?
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23-02-2013, 02:27 PM
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Hi, just to add some value to this once great, but deteriorating forum.
There are many finance professionals with worse credentials than you. With a 2nd upper in EE from nus, I can safely tell you that you are doing fine. I suggest you setup a Linkedin account first if you haven't, to see how luck & opportunity plays a big role for many average people who got into lucrative roles.
Secondly, if you're keen to join banking/finance, the roles which are more promising and "closer to the money", so to speak, are Treasury front office (sales/dealing), Product Managers, Private Banking (investment consultants/product specialists), and Research (any form of research, eg. Equity, Global Macro economics, Commodities etc) These are the ones you want to go into, to make good ROI of your Masters investment.
3 more real-life tips:
1. Many people who are in those roles i mentioned, were not from top tier universities. Eg. if you do a SMU MBA/Masters, you could possibly get into private banking without prior finance exp.
2. If you can't get into top tier firms, get into those roles in small firms first. Start from small and gain experience and you will eventually end up in the prestigious ones. DO NOT take the backoffice offer in a big firm over the roles i mentioned in small firms. If you do equity research for 5 years in a small firm, you will more likely end up as a fund manager/trader/M&A analyst than the guy who did 5 years of backoffice work in an IB.
3. You can start with internships if you can't get perm/contract offers for those roles.
I am sure there are lucrative jobs in engineering/IT sales as well, which im not familiar with, so i won't comment on that sector.
Good luck!
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25-02-2013, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Hi, just to add some value to this once great, but deteriorating forum.
There are many finance professionals with worse credentials than you. With a 2nd upper in EE from nus, I can safely tell you that you are doing fine. I suggest you setup a Linkedin account first if you haven't, to see how luck & opportunity plays a big role for many average people who got into lucrative roles.
Secondly, if you're keen to join banking/finance, the roles which are more promising and "closer to the money", so to speak, are Treasury front office (sales/dealing), Product Managers, Private Banking (investment consultants/product specialists), and Research (any form of research, eg. Equity, Global Macro economics, Commodities etc) These are the ones you want to go into, to make good ROI of your Masters investment.
3 more real-life tips:
1. Many people who are in those roles i mentioned, were not from top tier universities. Eg. if you do a SMU MBA/Masters, you could possibly get into private banking without prior finance exp.
2. If you can't get into top tier firms, get into those roles in small firms first. Start from small and gain experience and you will eventually end up in the prestigious ones. DO NOT take the backoffice offer in a big firm over the roles i mentioned in small firms. If you do equity research for 5 years in a small firm, you will more likely end up as a fund manager/trader/M&A analyst than the guy who did 5 years of backoffice work in an IB.
3. You can start with internships if you can't get perm/contract offers for those roles.
I am sure there are lucrative jobs in engineering/IT sales as well, which im not familiar with, so i won't comment on that sector.
Good luck!
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You are just listing a bunch of banking jobs that everybody also know how to go jobsdb to search, the key thing is what can he do with his crappy background and useless cert?
Talk is easy, but which small equity research firm will hire a 30s guy with no experience and some purchased pte uni masters as an analyst??? The samll firms are not as good as big banks people, but neither are they so desperate they will just grab any middle age guy off the shelf who doesnt even have a clue what financial markets is about.
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