Career as Teacher

Hi everyone,

i have been shortlisted for the of Moe counsellor, just wondering if anyone knows what is the pay like for this position for a male graduate with honours with 2 years of teaching experience( not moe). Will it be at a range between 3.3K to 3.5K or more? so far on the website they just put between 2.76k to 4.61k. Thanks!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi everyone,

i have been shortlisted for the of Moe counsellor, just wondering if anyone knows what is the pay like for this position for a male graduate with honours with 2 years of teaching experience( not moe). Will it be at a range between 3.3K to 3.5K or more? so far on the website they just put between 2.76k to 4.61k. Thanks!

First class: 4.2K
Second upper: 3..9K
Second lower: 3.6K

10 years to reach GEO4? That's really slow even for a female.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi,

I am currently an untrained NIE trainee (GEO 2 untrained) on practicum in a primary school.

Just to advice those who wish to teach to try teaching as relief teacher to see whether you can accept the challenge of handling a classroom nowadays. You need to have compassion, understand why the kids behave that way and try to help them. If you come out of the class feeling angry, you are not suitable to be a teacher. The kids' well being, character and value should be our main focus, the academic results will come in naturally when the basic needs are settled.

I am in the last batch of July 2016 1 year PGDE programme. Honestly, it is not easy during the PGDE. We studied all 3 Subjects, English, Math and Science. I feel that the programme is very packed, challenging but fulfilling. The new 16 months PGDE trainee only need to take 2 subjects except MT, PE, Music or Art which they only study one subject.

I am a mid career switch from government and private sector. Highest drawn salary was $4.8k in 2010 in Mindef. Yearly salary was about $70k. Worked as property agent for a few years earning $20-30K while applying for MOE. Worked as a sales engineer for an IT company earning $3.3k gross for a year in 2012 but never saw my sales commision before. I tried relief teaching as long term relief teacher in a secondary school in 2013 and in a primary school in 2014 with daily salary of $100. No salary during weekends, public holidays or school holidays but the passion kept me going and my wife was supportive financially all these while. I was really blessed and lucky.

My wife is GEO4 after near 10 years of teaching in two secondary schools with $5.8k salary. She just got promoted last year. She didnt want to be promoted so she did not try to score points in school because she is not comfortable with additional responsibilities. She just want to be a normal teacher to help the kids.

I fanally got through the MOE interview at the 6th or 7th attempt with help from relief teaching experience and principal's support. Taught for 1 year contract teaching at same primary school with starting salary of $3.4K. Before entering NIE, salary increased by $200, yearly increment. Now waiting for next yearly increment in July while doing practicum in the same primary school. I requested to be posted back to the same school and I was lucky. No PB for trainee or contract teaching but all other bonuses are the same.

Not sure when is the next promotion. Another 6 weeks before practicum ends.

We wake up at about 5.40am, eat breakfast and start work at 6.45am to 7am. I need to reach early when I have morning gate duty as I am the level discipline master. We normally off work about 5 to 6pm. Sometimes about 10% of the time we will leave at about 3-4 pm. Very rarely, we will leave at 2pm unless we have urgent matters or medical appointments. We are free to leave after 2pm but there are just so many things to do or things to prepare for next few day's lesson. We missed our son but we are lucky that my mum helped to take care of him for us while we work.

We are going to continue working as teachers until retirement when we will come back as relief teachers. I am one of those mid career who drives to NIE while studying because I need to send my pregnant wife to work before I go to NIE every morning. The car was bought with full cash during my last government job in 2010. In fact I also have another new class 2 bike, upgraded from a small bike which we have kept for many years because of the retained number plate and our riding passion. I uses this bike to save on campus parking fee on days that are not raining. We are trying very hard to resist the temptation to change our 7 years old continental seven seater to a japanese hybrid five seater. We are lucky to have a healthy 2 years old son and a daughter (soon) with a stable and satisfying career.

Money should not be the reason u want to be a teacher. It will also not be the reason for you not to be a teacher. The passion is the one that keeps you going. If you feel for the kids, then it will be a satisfying career which you will start to hate public holidays because you wish for more time to finish teaching the syllabus or catch up with the SOW.

Originally Posted by Curious Soul

Hi! How does one know whether he/she will get promoted in April?

My Principal came to look for us personally to congratulate us on getting promoted. I haven't got the letter though. Should be soon.

Actually is 9 years. On the 5th year, requested to changed school because previous RO not on good term with her. Even the open posting was rejected when school leader checked with her RO.

I helped her to write in to MOE to appeal or else will quit and at the same time complained about her RO's unfair treatment. They agreed and reposted to another school after Christmas last minute. Soon, few colleagues under the same RO also wrote in. They were all posted out and that RO was also posted out. Then the school closed down recently due to low intake.

Much happier in new school but need to wait 3 years because previously always get got poor ranking. Then in new school 3 years average B ranking and was promoted. During yearly appraisal, actually asked to do existing work load and dont wish to promote but end up they say promotion is long overdue, gave more projects to clock kpi and was promoted in the end.

Hi everybody,

I am finishing NIE soon. I am GEO 2 rank untrained. Meaning I am untrained degree holder finishing my PGDE Primary soon. My salary was $4.6k at the beginning of contract and $4.8k before NIE after annual pay increment. I felt that the range is just a guide. I am a mid career as well. When I told my fellow NIE trainee, they were also surprised. I guessed your previous experience and last drawn salary plays a part. Now I am afraid my salary is already over the range, will I still receive increment after graduation from NIE and promotion to GEO 3. Hope anyone who have experience can advise. Thank you.

I was able to confirm GEO5 and SEO1 at least, and the other ranges were contributed by other users. Hopefully accurate! Would welcome any other data that readers can offer.

Originally Posted by Unregistered787

Dear kind user who posted this , can confirm if the GEO scales that are NOT in red are confirmed? i cant find any info about this on MOE HR portal. just got pushed up to GEO3 , and trying to find out the salary scale kindly. really appreciate any help from you folks. cheers

P.s. Thanks for updating for GEO3!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I was able to confirm GEO5 and SEO1 at least, and the other ranges were contributed by other users. Hopefully accurate! Would welcome any other data that readers can offer.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi everybody,

I am finishing NIE soon. I am GEO 2 rank untrained. Meaning I am untrained degree holder finishing my PGDE Primary soon. My salary was $4.6k at the beginning of contract and $4.8k before NIE after annual pay increment. I felt that the range is just a guide. I am a mid career as well. When I told my fellow NIE trainee, they were also surprised. I guessed your previous experience and last drawn salary plays a part. Now I am afraid my salary is already over the range, will I still receive increment after graduation from NIE and promotion to GEO 3. Hope anyone who have experience can advise. Thank you.

So based on pac gov, what's the Minimum point and Maximum point of your salary scale, and what's your range code?

Seems very unlikely this is true since GEO2 untrained maximum point is 4340.

How long does it usually take for a female to promote from geo 3 to geo 4 if teaching is the first career?