Fresh grad 2020

Any MBA grads to be (2020) here with working exp, care to share how the job hunt has been going amidst the current global economic outlook? I got accepted to one of the M7s but rethinking whether to go... Can anyone currently doing an MBA share their experience? Seems like post-mba opportunities in Sg are quite bleak..

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I say wait until job market normalise. Then take the normal pay job. Why rush into working?

It's for life. You'll have to work like 20 to 30 years. Or until you die. So what is 1 year off.

SG companies and corporate world generally speaking don't like it when they see any sort of gaps in your CV. You can only use the excuse/valid explanation of "I was freelancing and experimenting with my career options during that time" so many times, and 1 year off your career path in SG is a very big deal compared with other countries once you start thinking of compounding pay increments.

[sinkingfeeling]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

SG companies and corporate world generally speaking don't like it when they see any sort of gaps in your CV. You can only use the excuse/valid explanation of "I was freelancing and experimenting with my career options during that time" so many times, and 1 year off your career path in SG is a very big deal compared with other countries once you start thinking of compounding pay increments.

I got two gaps on my resume, one about 6 months and the current one about 10 month

Means I am hong gan and might as well book a swim at Macritchie?

Otherwise, how to explain?

Originally Posted by sinkingfeeling

I got two gaps on my resume, one about 6 months and the current one about 10 month

Means I am hong gan and might as well book a swim at Macritchie?

Otherwise, how to explain?

you better have a good explanation lor.

i applied for internship a few years back at one of the bulge bracket banks and they kept hounding me to explain my 2 year gap (due to NS) because the HR was located overseas and I had to tell them that conscription is mandatory in SG

Hi, would like some opinion from you guys on the job offers I have so far. The info shared is from what I can gather, not concrete.

1. Micron: Planning Engineer
- Base pay: 4K + AWS + Variable Bonus + OT (Usually plenty if ones want to do)
- The industry and the company is projected to grow
- Promotion for the first few years is fast. first promotion on avg: 1yr
- Increment: 10% normal - 20% if promoted

2. Singtel MAP
- Base Pay: 5k + Variable Bonus (2-6 months)
- The industry is saturated, growth plateaued, but they have fast-growing subsidiaries (like
NCS) which I can forever be part of.
- Promotion is slow, can't find a reference timeline. But heard they have had pay increment
freeze before
- The increments I heard are less than 20%

About me, Engineering grad but do not like the boring back-end life, hate that there are no girls also hahah. I would eventually like to transition into Banking and Finance.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, would like some opinion from you guys on the job offers I have so far. The info shared is from what I can gather, not concrete.

1. Micron: Planning Engineer
- Base pay: 4K + AWS + Variable Bonus + OT (Usually plenty if ones want to do)
- The industry and the company is projected to grow
- Promotion for the first few years is fast. first promotion on avg: 1yr
- Increment: 10% normal - 20% if promoted

2. Singtel MAP
- Base Pay: 5k + Variable Bonus (2-6 months)
- The industry is saturated, growth plateaued, but they have fast-growing subsidiaries (like
NCS) which I can forever be part of.
- Promotion is slow, can't find a reference timeline. But heard they have had pay increment
freeze before
- The increments I heard are less than 20%

About me, Engineering grad but do not like the boring back-end life, hate that there are no girls also hahah. I would eventually like to transition into Banking and Finance.

Banking and Finance? Then you should not bother with either.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, would like some opinion from you guys on the job offers I have so far. The info shared is from what I can gather, not concrete.

1. Micron: Planning Engineer
- Base pay: 4K + AWS + Variable Bonus + OT (Usually plenty if ones want to do)
- The industry and the company is projected to grow
- Promotion for the first few years is fast. first promotion on avg: 1yr
- Increment: 10% normal - 20% if promoted

2. Singtel MAP
- Base Pay: 5k + Variable Bonus (2-6 months)
- The industry is saturated, growth plateaued, but they have fast-growing subsidiaries (like
NCS) which I can forever be part of.
- Promotion is slow, can't find a reference timeline. But heard they have had pay increment
freeze before
- The increments I heard are less than 20%

About me, Engineering grad but do not like the boring back-end life, hate that there are no girls also hahah. I would eventually like to transition into Banking and Finance.

You should have planned ahead and got yourself some banking internships.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hi, would like some opinion from you guys on the job offers I have so far. The info shared is from what I can gather, not concrete.

1. Micron: Planning Engineer
- Base pay: 4K + AWS + Variable Bonus + OT (Usually plenty if ones want to do)
- The industry and the company is projected to grow
- Promotion for the first few years is fast. first promotion on avg: 1yr
- Increment: 10% normal - 20% if promoted

2. Singtel MAP
- Base Pay: 5k + Variable Bonus (2-6 months)
- The industry is saturated, growth plateaued, but they have fast-growing subsidiaries (like
NCS) which I can forever be part of.
- Promotion is slow, can't find a reference timeline. But heard they have had pay increment
freeze before
- The increments I heard are less than 20%

About me, Engineering grad but do not like the boring back-end life, hate that there are no girls also hahah. I would eventually like to transition into Banking and Finance.

Hey OP maybe i can chime in with my opinion, was also offered Singtel MAP but specialist track in 2022 - i think one thing we can consider is that the MAP is a graduate program which after all offers better progression as im sure you know we start at a higher grade already. I would say either Singtel is pivoting q well (?) into the tech space which is a boom for sure. Micron as well but do consider that it aint a graduate program as well. After all after the 2 years in Singtel, i heard that u are p much guaranteed a role if u choose to stay on, else, at least you can say you were in a tech industry (?) kinda. just my 2 cents!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Banking and Finance? Then you should not bother with either.

No choice brother, I do not have B&F background. Tried the MA programs offered but did not make it through, other than this finexis Advisory which I think is not a good program (to me it seems like they want you to become an FC and hire more FCs, shouldn't even say FC but insurance agents).

I am in between interview rounds for Capital Group early-career associates programs and would definitely take it up if they offer me, no doubt about that haha.

But for now I have these, so getting at least one out of my brain would be good. Will still be looking out for more opportunities anyways.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hey OP maybe i can chime in with my opinion, was also offered Singtel MAP but specialist track in 2022 - i think one thing we can consider is that the MAP is a graduate program which after all offers better progression as im sure you know we start at a higher grade already. I would say either Singtel is pivoting q well (?) into the tech space which is a boom for sure. Micron as well but do consider that it aint a graduate program as well. After all after the 2 years in Singtel, i heard that u are p much guaranteed a role if u choose to stay on, else, at least you can say you were in a tech industry (?) kinda. just my 2 cents!

Thanks mate, and congratulations on your offer. I didn't want to influence the decisions of other singtel MAP candidates hence did not post in the thread haha.

Anyways, do you really think they have a growth opportunity (sincerely asking)? to me their financials for the past 5 years looks very bad, they have gone nowhere and paying more dividend than their earnings, business equity has gone down.

In the time when covid should have a positive impact on their business, they struggled. I think the NCS business has growth and If I choose to go in, I would focus on that.

Also talking to the senior MAP, They really didn't open up on the progression and increments, which worries me a little. But somewhat understandable also cause it was on zoom with a bunch of other candidates also.

But I am actually inclining to towards the MAP as well. If in 4 years they are able to give two bumps @20% pay increase and 10% increment on the other years. It would be great already.