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Unregistered 22-07-2019 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 121902)
nope. mx13 is lta grade 6

i supposed lta grade 7 is mx12. how about lta grade 8, 9 and 10?

Unregistered 23-07-2019 11:59 AM

MX13 starting pay only 2500 back then

Unregistered 23-07-2019 02:46 PM

Would anyone advise, how is the career and pay progression for MSF? Starting as Executive at $3.2k (MX13). (I’m a fresh grad.) I understand that the different levels are: Exec, Snr Exec, Policy Officer, AM, M etc. There’s also Policy Officer positions in my division. Wondering for an average farmer (non-scholar), how many years to progress to the next level? Thanks in advance!

Unregistered 23-07-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 121901)
oh come on
it's way more stressful in the private sector

I wouldn’t want to trade the possibility of earning more than 200K pa with the predicatable pay and lower pay ceiling of CS

Unregistered 23-07-2019 08:26 PM

What is the salary of a Senior Deputy Director in a ministry? Snr DD corresponds to which MX?

Unregistered 23-07-2019 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 121993)
I wouldn’t want to trade the possibility of earning more than 200K pa with the predicatable pay and lower pay ceiling of CS

You already trade the predictable and high pay ceiling of CS with the possibility of earning less than 200k pa elsewhere. CS are earning 200k, are you in the wrong place? More than half the department changed new cars in May-June after getting bonus and the cheapest one is Audi A4.

Unregistered 24-07-2019 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 121982)
Would anyone advise, how is the career and pay progression for MSF? Starting as Executive at $3.2k (MX13). (I’m a fresh grad.) I understand that the different levels are: Exec, Snr Exec, Policy Officer, AM, M etc. There’s also Policy Officer positions in my division. Wondering for an average farmer (non-scholar), how many years to progress to the next level? Thanks in advance!


Which division? SPSG, RPG, FDG etc? what are you doing? Gender, got NS?, what degree & age?

Exec - MX13
Snr Exec or Policy Ofr or AM can be MX13/12 depending to division.

usually MX13, the next year will promoted liao.. cos 13 is a confirmation grade..

Unregistered 24-07-2019 11:33 AM

a 50 year old deputy director in a big stat board earning $13k pm is it average?

Unregistered 24-07-2019 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122026)
a 50 year old deputy director in a big stat board earning $13k pm is it average?


This is a bit on the higher for a deputy director. Based on his salary, he will get closer to S$250k p.a. He will have his 13th month, performance bonus and double corporate bonus - easily 6 months and up to 8-9 months.

Unregistered 24-07-2019 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122007)
You already trade the predictable and high pay ceiling of CS with the possibility of earning less than 200k pa elsewhere. CS are earning 200k, are you in the wrong place? More than half the department changed new cars in May-June after getting bonus and the cheapest one is Audi A4.

How long to reach 200 pa? Cars are depreciating assets.

Unregistered 24-07-2019 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 121939)
i supposed lta grade 7 is mx12. how about lta grade 8, 9 and 10?

Not sure if it match exactly, but largely should be like this

lta 6 - mx13
lta 7 - mx12
lta 8 - mx11
lta 9 - mx11a
lta 10 & 11 - mx10
lta 12 - mx9

Unregistered 25-07-2019 01:18 AM

Will there be salary revision soon since election is coming? 😀

Unregistered 25-07-2019 06:46 AM

Are JTC and LTA considered SB? Or CS? Saw a lot of openings recently. Strangely friends said they pay better than pte. True? From engineering industry here. 10 yrs experience with only degree if to join either, what kind of position or salary to expect? Will base on previous pay?

Unregistered 25-07-2019 06:53 AM

What are the chances of reaching DD or AD or D if join in mid career without being a scholar in SB?

Unregistered 25-07-2019 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122064)
Are JTC and LTA considered SB? Or CS? Saw a lot of openings recently. Strangely friends said they pay better than pte. True? From engineering industry here. 10 yrs experience with only degree if to join either, what kind of position or salary to expect? Will base on previous pay?

For generous bonuses (6 to 9 months), join pte. Furthermore, job hop in pte sector generally gets pay raises 1K and up. This is something you don’t see in CS.

Unregistered 25-07-2019 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122066)
For generous bonuses (6 to 9 months), join pte. Furthermore, job hop in pte sector generally gets pay raises 1K and up. This is something you don’t see in CS.

Not sure about the bonus part, but think it applies to banking sector more. The job hop part definitely is more possible compared to CS.

Unregistered 26-07-2019 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122064)
Are JTC and LTA considered SB? Or CS? Saw a lot of openings recently. Strangely friends said they pay better than pte. True? From engineering industry here. 10 yrs experience with only degree if to join either, what kind of position or salary to expect? Will base on previous pay?

Yes LTA is a SB of MOT. Not sure about JTC, but the SB usually pays higher for engineering roles (e.g., DSTA engineers starts from mid 4s for fresh grad) because it’s like a professional service. Not sure if they pay better than pte engineering firms, but there’s a large competition for good engineers so seems like the govt more willing to pay more for it.

Anyway, SBs may be a little higher cause they set their pay structure independent from CS BUT BUT BUT they take direction from CS renumeration framework.

I think 10 years can join as principal engineer or higher senior/ junior mgt roles within the engineering wings maybe? They will take into your pay as account, but he warned that your salary maybe founded based your qualification, and then top ups to your experience and other qualification - that is to say, keeping all else the same, you would have earned more with a first class than a 2:1 from your uni. The thing about CS renumeration structure is that they have a structure and formula to set pay. Then other things they want to match its like a top up to the base structure from the formula.

All the best!

Unregistered 26-07-2019 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 121799)
It's quite sad that the pay has not been revised since 2015 while the cost of living has gone up yearly. For a $100 to $200+ yearly increment, we are sometimes getting less and less pay (in real terms) each year!

-an MX non scholar

What's the yearly increment translated to percentage?

Unregistered 26-07-2019 06:33 PM

5 years experience, private pass degree, what position (mx) and salary should I expect? Got offer about 6.5k. Not sure if lowballed.

Unregistered 26-07-2019 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122140)
5 years experience, private pass degree, what position (mx) and salary should I expect? Got offer about 6.5k. Not sure if lowballed.

What’s your target salary? Thought it’s a good offer

Unregistered 27-07-2019 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122140)
5 years experience, private pass degree, what position (mx) and salary should I expect? Got offer about 6.5k. Not sure if lowballed.

if u see previous posts, ppl work 6 years since fresh grad only 6k. and u pte pass degree. super good offer

Unregistered 27-07-2019 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122140)
5 years experience, private pass degree, what position (mx) and salary should I expect? Got offer about 6.5k. Not sure if lowballed.

Very good deal.. only 5 years experience..
Even pte companies may not pay that..

Unregistered 27-07-2019 02:53 PM

Anyone know how much salary should I expect after 5 years with a stat board as an engineer? Starting pay $4300, after probation of one year 5k. Local grad, first class and non-scholar. Assuming avg performance.

Unregistered 28-07-2019 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122166)
Anyone know how much salary should I expect after 5 years with a stat board as an engineer? Starting pay $4300, after probation of one year 5k. Local grad, first class and non-scholar. Assuming avg performance.

You will have to ask the engineers. I know a girl who got her first job in a stat board with a local degree (non FCH) in 2019. Her starting pay is $3300. MX scheme.

Unregistered 28-07-2019 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122063)
Will there be salary revision soon since election is coming? 😀

Hopefully yes, hope will come by the end of the year

Unregistered 28-07-2019 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122197)
Hopefully yes, hope will come by the end of the year

Yes should be this year. Starting to receive election letters already. Hence pay increment should come before election somehow

Unregistered 29-07-2019 08:02 AM

Whats the rationale that pay adjustment comes before an election? Our economy is already going to face a tech recession soon, how does that justify for a pay adjustment to us?

Unregistered 29-07-2019 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122217)
Whats the rationale that pay adjustment comes before an election? Our economy is already going to face a tech recession soon, how does that justify for a pay adjustment to us?

Agree. I'm quite ticked off that they waited so long that there's now a recession coming and an upward pay adjustment is no longer justifiable. If anything the pay will now be adjusted downwards - will probably make the voters happy too.

Unregistered 29-07-2019 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122066)
For generous bonuses (6 to 9 months), join pte. Furthermore, job hop in pte sector generally gets pay raises 1K and up. This is something you don’t see in CS.

True for oil and gas petrochemicals banking only la bro. Not everyone in these sectors

Unregistered 30-07-2019 08:14 PM

Gross and Basic Salary
 
Hi, Im not sure if this is asked before but what is the difference between basic and gross salary?

For example (numbers are made up):

Gross monthly salary: 2000
"Your gross monthly salary is made up of 50% basic salary, 10% MVC, 9% NPC, 31% NPVP."

So what is my basic salary?

If my gross is made up of half of my basic salary, where is my other half? Why is it not made up of 100% of my basic salary?

littlemonster 30-07-2019 09:27 PM

When to quit if want to take Dec 2019 bonus?
 
Hi,

I would like to know if I want to quit my CS job and take home Dec 2019 bonus. When should I quit if I need to tender 1 month notice?

Unregistered 30-07-2019 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by littlemonster (Post 122279)
Hi,

I would like to know if I want to quit my CS job and take home Dec 2019 bonus. When should I quit if I need to tender 1 month notice?

best to tender on 1st week of dec, so your last day should be in Jan.

cheers

zenzen 30-07-2019 09:48 PM

Went for an interview at MOE a few weeks back. But no news until now. Does that mean that I have no hope already?

Unregistered 31-07-2019 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by zenzen (Post 122281)
Went for an interview at MOE a few weeks back. But no news until now. Does that mean that I have no hope already?

Should call to check. It’s getting a bit too long.

Unregistered 01-08-2019 12:37 AM

Mas
 
Does anyone know if MAS pays higher than ministry for similar grade? If so, roughly how much more?

Thanks!

Unregistered 02-08-2019 10:43 PM

How do you improve your CEP? Possible to improve if your grades were only so so but you're doing well in the job?

Unregistered 02-08-2019 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122364)
How do you improve your CEP? Possible to improve if your grades were only so so but you're doing well in the job?

Had this question too
Would a local uni masters cover the so so grades

Also would this help with getting into PSLP?
Great performance, so so grades possible?

Unregistered 03-08-2019 07:18 AM

From my experience and understanding, CEP is based on your education. Was in services for 3 years, default c 1st year, B 2nd year and A 3rd year but not promoted compared to a 1st class colleague who got promoted 1.5 years into service. Have since left the org and now in pte sector. Never been more happier.

Unregistered 03-08-2019 09:01 AM

Yes, i have seen people done it.

Is CEP of MX8 considered high?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122364)
How do you improve your CEP? Possible to improve if your grades were only so so but you're doing well in the job?


Unregistered 03-08-2019 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 122369)
Had this question too
Would a local uni masters cover the so so grades

Also would this help with getting into PSLP?
Great performance, so so grades possible?

Is the masters relevant for the job - otherwise no...


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