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Unregistered 26-12-2014 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60514)
hi guys, can i check what is the probation period for new hires to ministries/sbs...six months? a year? thanks!

There isn't probation now. All new hires are offered a two year contract. After your contract is up, they will review your performance and consider if they want to convert you to permanent post.

Unregistered 26-12-2014 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60515)
There isn't probation now. All new hires are offered a two year contract. After your contract is up, they will review your performance and consider if they want to convert you to permanent post.

thanks for replying.

what about leave policy for new hires? is there a period of time (6 months?) upon initially joining the ministry/sb where taking leave is not allowed?

asking because i might be starting a new civil service job but i want to take leave to visit my gf who is studying overseas.

Unregistered 26-12-2014 11:00 AM

31 yr old female, second upper hons, in a policy cum planning role drawing 6.7k at mx11a. Think im quite average.

Unregistered 26-12-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60522)
31 yr old female, second upper hons, in a policy cum planning role drawing 6.7k at mx11a. Think im quite average.

can provide which years you start joining ?
how many years of exp ?

how much is your annual salary (inclusive all bonus)?

Unregistered 26-12-2014 11:28 AM

anybody working in HDB? How's the estate manager salary like?

Unregistered 26-12-2014 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60522)
31 yr old female, second upper hons, in a policy cum planning role drawing 6.7k at mx11a. Think im quite average.

You have 8 years of working experience? 6.7k at mx 11a with 8 yrs experience is considered quite good as compared to average pte sector worker.
Average total annual bonus = 4 months?
If that is so, you are earning close to 110k pa which is above average :)

Unregistered 26-12-2014 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60518)
thanks for replying.

what about leave policy for new hires? is there a period of time (6 months?) upon initially joining the ministry/sb where taking leave is not allowed?

asking because i might be starting a new civil service job but i want to take leave to visit my gf who is studying overseas.

Nope. You can apply leave unless your supervisor does not allow.

Unregistered 26-12-2014 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60527)
anybody working in HDB? How's the estate manager salary like?

3.7k for 2nd upper, local uni, with NS

Unregistered 26-12-2014 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60525)
can provide which years you start joining ?
how many years of exp ?

how much is your annual salary (inclusive all bonus)?

Started working in 2006. About 8 yrs working exp

Unregistered 26-12-2014 01:38 PM

byalthor 400
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60531)
3.7k for 2nd upper, local uni, with NS

Will they consider 2nd lower local uni with NS?

Unregistered 26-12-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60528)
You have 8 years of working experience? 6.7k at mx 11a with 8 yrs experience is considered quite good as compared to average pte sector worker.
Average total annual bonus = 4 months?
If that is so, you are earning close to 110k pa which is above average :)

agree ~110k with 8 yrs exp is above average

my private sector with 8 years exp

For "C" performer
starting = 3000
after 8 years with 2 promotions = 4300, annual salary = 75000 only

For "B" performer
starting = 3000
after 8 years with 2 promotions = 4600, annual salary = 90000 only

Unregistered 26-12-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60522)
31 yr old female, second upper hons, in a policy cum planning role drawing 6.7k at mx11a. Think im quite average.

I heard from my colleagues that only those whose salaries were above the old mx11 bar (at least $6781), got emplaced in mx11a during the August exercise.

Did this happen in your case too?

Unregistered 26-12-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60536)
I heard from my colleagues that only those whose salaries were above the old mx11 bar (at least $6781), got emplaced in mx11a during the August exercise.

Did this happen in your case too?

There is a second criteria for emplacement, not quite sure what it is though.

Unregistered 26-12-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60535)
agree ~110k with 8 yrs exp is above average

my private sector with 8 years exp

For "C" performer
starting = 3000
after 8 years with 2 promotions = 4300, annual salary = 75000 only

For "B" performer
starting = 3000
after 8 years with 2 promotions = 4600, annual salary = 90000 only

Both your friends from oil and gas? 8 yrs in same company?

Unregistered 26-12-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60537)
There is a second criteria for emplacement, not quite sure what it is though.

Ic. How many years were you in mx11 before you got emplaced in mx11a in aug?

Unregistered 26-12-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60538)
Both your friends from oil and gas? 8 yrs in same company?

yes..................

Unregistered 26-12-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60469)
How old is your female friend who's earning 7k?

29. I believe she has worked for 6-7 years? Seems like all the policy people are getting paid highly. What bout operational people like tax investigator etc? Or audit? Or inspectors in NEA etc?

Unregistered 26-12-2014 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60539)
Ic. How many years were you in mx11 before you got emplaced in mx11a in aug?

Got mx11 in 2011

Unregistered 26-12-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60544)
Got mx11 in 2011

What's your performance grade for the last three years? Was it C, B, B?

Unregistered 26-12-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60544)
Got mx11 in 2011

No need to ask further, obviously this is a high flyer/ very good performer with mostly Bs kind. She got mx11 after working for 5 years... I believe this is above the average norm already?

Unregistered 26-12-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60546)
No need to ask further, obviously this is a high flyer/ very good performer with mostly Bs kind. She got mx11 after working for 5 years... I believe this is above the average norm already?

Trying to ascertain the second criterion for emplacement to mx11a. Prior to knowing about her case, had only heard of the salary criterion.

Unregistered 26-12-2014 08:17 PM

Anybody here can offer me some insight on CSIT vs DSO? Which organization offers better progression 5yrs down the road and what about culture?

Unregistered 26-12-2014 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60534)
Will they consider 2nd lower local uni with NS?

Yes. $3.45k only.

Unregistered 27-12-2014 12:27 AM

Is it diffcult to secure a policy related job for mid-career seekers? I am 27 now. My current job is in the public sector, healthcare.

Unregistered 27-12-2014 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60577)
Is it diffcult to secure a policy related job for mid-career seekers? I am 27 now. My current job is in the public sector, healthcare.

Healthcare policy seems like something which you can explore if you want to get into policy. It's easier to move to other policy roles once you have policy experience.

Unregistered 27-12-2014 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60577)
Is it diffcult to secure a policy related job for mid-career seekers? I am 27 now. My current job is in the public sector, healthcare.

27? Looking for a job in policy making? From a healthcare public sector? Are you ROY NGERNG? haha.

To answer your question, its hard for ANYONE to get into policy related jobs. SMU/NUS/NTU pumping out so many idealistic humanities/social science grads who think they can make in the public policy. Lots of competition for the very limited jobs. But if you got good honours, you might still be able to make it. I know 2 pol science grads that are in policy. Quite fresh, both 2nd upper. One in mindef, the other in MHA.

Unregistered 27-12-2014 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60580)
27? Looking for a job in policy making? From a healthcare public sector? Are you ROY NGERNG? haha.

To answer your question, its hard for ANYONE to get into policy related jobs. SMU/NUS/NTU pumping out so many idealistic humanities/social science grads who think they can make in the public policy. Lots of competition for the very limited jobs. But if you got good honours, you might still be able to make it. I know 2 pol science grads that are in policy. Quite fresh, both 2nd upper. One in mindef, the other in MHA.

fresh grad looking for jobs with the public service. local uni, second uppers in social science.

what does the day in day out work of a policy role actually entail?

Unregistered 27-12-2014 02:21 PM

increment too little?
 
2.5 yrs exp engineer
Start 3.9, now 4.3 after 1 pomotion. Ok? bonus include 13th month about 3.5 to 4

Unregistered 27-12-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60591)
2.5 yrs exp engineer
Start 3.9, now 4.3 after 1 pomotion. Ok? bonus include 13th month about 3.5 to 4

Start 3.9? 2nd upper?

Unregistered 27-12-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60580)
27? Looking for a job in policy making? From a healthcare public sector? Are you ROY NGERNG? haha.

To answer your question, its hard for ANYONE to get into policy related jobs. SMU/NUS/NTU pumping out so many idealistic humanities/social science grads who think they can make in the public policy. Lots of competition for the very limited jobs. But if you got good honours, you might still be able to make it. I know 2 pol science grads that are in policy. Quite fresh, both 2nd upper. One in mindef, the other in MHA.

Seems like that is the only kind of job these grads can get that pay decently. No idea what else pays so well.

Unregistered 27-12-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60581)
fresh grad looking for jobs with the public service. local uni, second uppers in social science.

what does the day in day out work of a policy role actually entail?

Attending meetings, taking down minutes, translate the discussion during meetings into a paper. That's probably what I'm guessing.

Unregistered 27-12-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60591)
2.5 yrs exp engineer
Start 3.9, now 4.3 after 1 pomotion. Ok? bonus include 13th month about 3.5 to 4

Please provide the following:

Class of honours
NS or non-NS

all your salary details, see below

2012 July - 3900 starting
2013 July - ??? (+XX annual increment)
2014 July - ??? (+XX annual increment + YY promotion increment)
2014 Dec - 4300

Thank you.

Unregistered 27-12-2014 04:57 PM

Can someone share the salary range info from GLC aka Singtel or ST engineering.

E5 ranges
E6 ranges
M1 ranges
M2 ranges
M3 ranges
M4 ranges
M5 ranges
M6 ranges

???

Unregistered 27-12-2014 06:01 PM

Please see below...

Annual increment is always like 3%

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60601)
Please provide the following:

Class of honours
NS 2nd up

all your salary details, see below

2012 July - 3900 starting
2013 July - 4011
2014 July - 4152
2015 jan - 4322 promoted

Thank you.


Unregistered 27-12-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60597)
Attending meetings, taking down minutes, translate the discussion during meetings into a paper. That's probably what I'm guessing.

Making lots of presentations, writing consultation papers to consult public on proposed policy changes, writing policy papers, doing research to substantiate policy proposals, being the secretariat to high-level committees, writing speeches for senior management, writing minutes, drafting responses to parliamentary questions, providing inputs to comms colleagues for media / public queries, accompanying senior management on overseas trips as a 'staffer' aka slave.

Unregistered 27-12-2014 09:00 PM

i'll share my pay progression in the public sector

figures are based on annual income
- 2011 (7x k)
- 2012 (8x k)
- 2013 (11x k)
- 2014 (12x k)

male, born in 1980s

Unregistered 27-12-2014 09:22 PM

Another male in public sector, early 30s

Annual income
- 2010 (~80 k)
- 2011 (~100 k)
- 2012 (~130 k)
- 2013 (~140 k)
- 2014 (~150 k)

Unregistered 27-12-2014 10:24 PM

Full of ******** posts today...

Unregistered 27-12-2014 10:57 PM

There is a little froggie in a well

Unregistered 29-12-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 60542)
29. I believe she has worked for 6-7 years? Seems like all the policy people are getting paid highly. What bout operational people like tax investigator etc? Or audit? Or inspectors in NEA etc?

29 and earning 7k. That's very high for someone on the normal MX scheme and a little unusual I think.


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