Compare civil service salary
I am 32, with 8 years of working experience, joined a stat board at $4300. HR refused to give me higher for the reason that this is the average among my peers considering my age, experiences etc.
I would ike to compare with my peers in the civil service. Any civil servant care to share more? |
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2nd upper Science Graduate (NUS). Class of 2007. Civil Servant. Earning $4.4k gross monthly. I'm not a scholar btw. I will be age 28 by year end 2010. $4.4k is my gross monthly salary (doesnt include the bonuses). Starting pay was $3.3k in 2007 Went up to $3.6k in 2008 Then to $3.8k in 2009 Then to $4.4k in 2010 By default, you get an annual increase in pay (called merit increment;dependent whether u perform well at work) and on top of that a promotional increment (if you get promoted to a higher job-grade) Hope this will give you a guage of your salary. |
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2nd Upper Econs Grad (UK uni) Non-scholar, 30 yrs old. Civil Servant
Drawing $5.3k gross monthly salary (doesn't include bonuses) Starting pay was $2.9k in early 2007. |
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In comparison, your increment is much faster than the 28 yr-old-guy who started with $3.3k in 2007. But I guess he will most likely draw $5.3k when he reaches 30 yr-old based on 10% annual increment. Now, i felt so cheated by HR. They are just using those reasons as excuses for bargaining. Some more, if I am not wrong, there isn't any salary downward adjustment in 2007-2009. HR just wanna take advantage of economy downturn to cut new ppl's salary. I was earning $5.3k + $500 transport allowance in my previous job in private sector and I would think that this is slightly above "average" among my peers that time. |
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Stat boards have the discretion to set their salaries differently from the Civil service i.e. Ministries. Thus, your HR may not have been wrong to say that that is indeed the average within your organisation. |
Wow, Civil Service really pays so well huh. I'm a grad in the pte sector and my pay is peanuts compared to u guys. 30yr old with 5yrs working experience some more. Over 5 yrs my salary only grew from $1.9k to $2.8k.
Is it easy to enter Civil Service? I've applied several times before but failed to even get called up for interview. And their employment application forms seems to want to know everything about you, even how well you did for PSLE (-_-)"' |
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-A fresh grad (gd honours, with NS) entering the intelligence service would likely draw a starting pay close to 4.5k, give and take 1k, if not mistaken. -An economist (masters degree, with NS) would likely be drawing anything from 4.5k- 5k or possibly even more. And don't even start on the elite Admin Service and their feeder MA scheme.... |
Was deciding to join the marine industry on civil service.. seems like civil services is a better choice after all.
Marine industry offer 2400 to 2600.. Civil service starting pay is about 3100-3700 already... |
I'm 32 this year, and just switched from pte sector to a Ministry.
got offered an entry pay of 6.3, excluding bonuses. local grad, 2nd upper in Arts and Social Sciences. the thing about this offer is that its a supernumerary position, which is renewable every two years. i hear that this is popular for the civil service right now. i've also heard that ppl on such schemes tend to get passed over for promotion, as compared to perm staff. i'm just very curious about how much teachers are making, because i really think they're overworked and underpaid. are there any teachers in this forum who'ld care to share? |
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What is your last drawn salary in private sector before you join this 6.3k service?? |
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Unregistered, i thought this thread was started to compare salaries for various civil service schemes, not to question people who come forth to share. I'm sure there is no need for anyone to brag about their salary behind the veil of anonymity (unless you have a different agenda). hence, I'm not sure if i understand your skepticism. Why not share your experiences instead of posing more questions? If it sounds too good to be true to you, I can assure you that its nothing compared to what I've heard others younger than me are being paid. |
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all the above are my educated guesses. |
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i'm a teacher with 9 years experience (including training in NIE). 2nd upper degree in Arts like you. i teach at a JC. i'm drawing close to 6k/pm without counting bonus. but i know some of my coursemates back in NIE with the same exp as me are only getting about 4.8-5k. are we underpaid??? yes. i was lucky to find a principal who liked me just sharing. |
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moreover, you will have a good chance of running a very successful tuition business. if you are well liked by students, you should consider quitting to start giving tuition full-time. NIE trained teachers with actual experience teaching in schools are in great demand. at a typical rate of $100/hr for such qualifications, you get $4k per week working just 40 hours (not counting travelling time and preparation). that's 16k+/mth, and about $200k/yr.
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But if you ask any teacher about the greatest challenges that he or she faces,it is usually never about the salary or monetary compensation.But for me sometimes I do feel discouraged especially my former classmates in school working as top lawyers or doctors or bankers command monthly salaries of more than 10 times my monthly pay.I guess it was a choice I made and no one forced me to be a teacher in the 1st place right? |
I joined a stat board when I was 25 with a pay of 2.6k/mth. (that was 15 years ago), left for private sector at the age of 27 and rejoined a different stat board with a pay of 4.2k/mth when I was 30. I left for private sector again when I was 35. the last drawn pay in that stat. board was about 8k/mth. male singaporean, served NS, graduated age of 23. 2nd upper honours.
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I have my share of friends who are bankers and lawyers. One of them is a research analyst for Citibank earning a package of about 330,000 a year. However this is a guy who genuinely has one of the worst work-life balances I've ever encountered. he leaves home at about 6.15am (he lives in river valley) for the morning call at 7am and he returns home at 11pm, after attending the morning call when wall street opens. He has to retire at 40 or he'll burn out for sure. no social life to speak of. |
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Any civil service ppl care to share abt the annual increment you get? |
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I was earning 4800 in a Ministry and got a 10% increment last year.
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For a Management executive officer on the MX11 pay grade I think the annual increment should be about 200. The pay grade stretches from 5k to 6k, i believe,so that makes it 5 increment rungs within that MX. MX10 begins at 6k, if i'm not wrong. |
Civil Servant, (27 yrs old) male, non-scholar
starting pay (2006) - 3.4 2007 - 3.9 2008 - 4.6 2009 - 4.9 2010 - 5.2 excluding bonus |
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2. What class of honors did you get? 3. Which university are you from? Base on my calculation, 2006-2007 = +$500 (14.7% annual increment) 2007-2008 = +$700 (17.9% annual increment) 2008-2009 = +$300 (6.5% annual increment) 2009-2010 = +$300 (6.1% annual increment) Is it true that all civil servant get this 'kind' of increment like yours?? My calculation show that the least annual increment is 6.1%, compared to private sector around 3%. Even for year 2008 to 2009, the annual increment is at least 6.1% (which is consider lesser than earlier year, due to economic crisis), while private company like SIA having pay cut or pay freeze. Are you a good/outstanding performer? or just average performer? Please reply. Thank you. |
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male teacher 33, subject head in a government school.
2nd upper, Arts starting pay (2003): $3100 present pay (2010): $5800 pay exclude bonus. How does this fare in the private sector among my peers. i did not go around asking as i thought it is a sensitive and private matter. Please advise. |
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around 5 months of bonus as i got good grades this year. that would mean: 5800 x 17: $98600.
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2. What class of honors did you get? 3. Which university are you from? Base on my calculation, 2006-2007 = +$500 (14.7% annual increment) 2007-2008 = +$700 (17.9% annual increment) 2008-2009 = +$300 (6.5% annual increment) 2009-2010 = +$300 (6.1% annual increment) Is it true that all civil servant get this 'kind' of increment like yours?? My calculation show that the least annual increment is 6.1%, compared to private sector around 3%. Even for year 2008 to 2009, the annual increment is at least 6.1% (which is consider lesser than earlier year, due to economic crisis), while private company like SIA having pay cut or pay freeze. Are you a good/outstanding performer? or just average performer? Please reply. Thank you. |
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bravely first
ya, the bonus is more or less that way, of cos depending on which year, some years good performance, some years ok only.
but on average 4 months should be the normal. (1.5 months for C grader, mid year 0.5 mth, end of year 2 months,inclusive 13th mth) so my question is for a 33 yr old male, working in government school, with a 2nd upper hon degree, is the pay $5800 ok? thinking of going outside to do something else. |
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Ok, ramblings aside, the money you make is pretty good for your age. If you want to "go outside", what do you intend to do? |
can anybody share the salary progression for the MX scheme for the different levels, i.e. MX13, 12, 11, 10 etc, and roughly how long it takes to jump from one level to the next?
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Your $98600 annual is so much higher than that of my colleague, it is better for you to stay put in teaching. Even if you wanna leave, what is the something else you want to do? |
I kept thinking some of the civil servants should not draw that kind of salary.
My subject head which is a scholar join the service 5 years ago, and he is drawing a salary of 7K per month with a little work to do. He is with chinese language department. Therefor, he always acts like he is very busy and always stay in the school till very late. Actually, he do not have much to do. Then he come up with an idea of Mother Tongue Enrichment Day which simply just ask a guest come to school to give a speech. When talking about value add and impact to the department is none. |
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