I thought th CS doesnt recognise SIM degrees? I've heard of SIM grads trying to join the CS under a degree holder's scheme but was advised to go for the Diploma positions instead.

Kind of impossible. Even for NUS/NTU third classes honours holders or even 2nd lowers. Have never heard of those entering the professional services. They would be filtered out before even the first stages to begin with.

I mean i don’t know. What if i said no, and someone comes in to say a yes..? So i already hint highly unlikely.

Again, or maybe the question poster has some experience? So let’s not burst the balloon.

That why i told them to refer to previous pages. If they read the thread enough they would know it is hard to get in mainstream civil service role (not impossible).

Give some hopes. Don’t make it like the world is ending if they want join professional service.

That why i also highlighted Pro service can be very picky.

I mean to give hope is akin to saying a poly diploma who somehow did biz law can be a lawyer. It's just not going to happen. Better to give a realistic assessment than false hopes.

Normal MXO is rarely possible (as shown earlier in this thread) albeit at a far lower payscale about $800-1000 less in the same role as an NUS/NTU graduate.

You do know the people they would be competing against are basically Oxbridge / Ivy grads, our top local graduates (FCH in NUS/NTU and who are likely local scholars) as well as graduants of other top tier foreign universities.

If even conventional NUS/NTU graduates (even 2nd Uppers would be very unlikely to enter) have little chance, I shudder to think what would happen to an SIM applicant.

Lol. I already say highly unlikely.

I mean did you see some RMIT student getting 4.x from a stat board.

why not just check the linkedin profiles of people in these professional schemes?

Ok i admit defeat. Sorry for giving the slightest hope to people from private uni. Go do something better than joining us in the civil service.

Almost impossible for specialist schemes. But definitely possible for the normal MX scheme. I’m living proof and I know of at least two other batch mates who are in the civil service. Not sure about their salaries but I wasn’t undercut. Was offered 3.5 which is reasonable for a fresh grad 2:1 with no NS.

However, I should add that we got into civil service in spite of our private uni degrees - ie we worked very hard to boost our resumes with quality extra curricular and internships.

i agree. for people who are taking private, its either you have gd eca/internship to proof yourself or work and study part time. your 2 yrs relevant experience may help you as well.

ps : i was in private sector (private uni) for 10yrs before joining SB and leading a team now, small team though

the long and short is private uni is definitely not comparable to local uni.. you need other things in your portfolio to "top up" the difference

Depends on agencies too. There are so many jobs out there not everyone of them are prestigious and sought after by local grads. So private uni grads can pick the ones with lower demand

SIM fresh grad with 2nd upper working at CPF will get how much?

2.8-3.3 usually for SIM?

Ard 3.5 if they want to emplace you on the regular scheme?

Lta exe engineer
 

Hi guys, I have received an offer from LTA for the position of EXE ENGINEER for $4700.
I have 2 years working in the related field (private)
I grad from NTU with 2ND upper HON and served NS.

It this reasonable?

I heard from grad with 2nd upper and ns can get $4500 already, how realible is this?


Many thanks!

Engineers usually get paid a bit more than corporate roles. I think it sounds ok. Most civil service low ball <3 year experience though, like they don’t really regard or top up a bit for those experience.

executive engineer is grad 7?
looks reasonable to me. fresh grad 2nd upper w ns can only get around 3.8 in lta. 4.5 is for other agencies that had merged 13th month into basic

Singapore Custom
 

Kindly check with you all, for singapore custom. I went interview last month on th 18 april. Any idea when will i know if is successful or unsuccessful. Coz the status still shortlisted

Got offered 3.5 k at a SB. 2nd upper fresh grad. Is this a normal range?

with or without NS?

Is SUSS part time degree recognised?
How much can I expect to get with a pass degree? Annual increment and salary cap how much?

Gender and uni location and type of SB please?

If work performance is poor (e.g. D or E grade), will it be carried with you throughout the civil service?

With NS. I think 2nd or 3rd tier SB.

From NTU.

Forgot to mention

I have seen a few in ministries and tier 1 SB at 3.7-3.9 for 2nd Upper male. 3.5 sounds ok for a tier 2-3 SB.

All the best

Maybe not top-tier ministries or CB. It depends on whether the HR recognises it and some top ministries can be very selective because your competitors all have stronger credentials.

I guess you can expect for a male to be 2.8-3.2k for a pass degree?

cap depends on which job level they place you in.

What do people mean when they say 2rd/3rd tier sb or ministry? Is it in terms of pay?

Even mci pays nus ntu fch 3.8k...i got offered. 3.5 for 2nd uper is very decent at a SB too

just curious.. what is the entry "designation" for MCI? mind sharing?

There no official definition, but generally people regard them as

More on the outputs, usually 1st tier are those related to the economy or specialised industry - MAS, EDB, MTI, Finance or ASTAR, DSO, DSTA, Legal Service

Then 2nd tier are like those those that deal with a better portfolio not in Tier 1 like MOE, MINDEF, MHA etc.

3rd usually those deal with the public MSF, Nparks, etc.

Usually, pay rate in tier 1 are higher and you can expect more hectic job scope too. The pay in most times correlate with your job scope. So people regards prestige with the role and pay.

For example, my friend with a 2:1 got in a tier 1 stat board for 3.8 including NS pay recently. So if you compare there are differences compared to the one quoted earlier for 3.8 for FCH in MCY.

Assistant Manager

You can’t group by tiers like this. It works for prestige but not so far. MTI AD (typically 2nd upper) starts at 3.5 to 4k only. Some of your tier 2 might also have similar salaries.

Also, FYI DSO is a private company - not a stat board. Shouldn’t even be in your list.

Most entry are AMs

That why it is more related to the industry/nature of work and capacity than pay.

And to the DSO, it was a typo, i meant FSO - Foreign Service.

is it true that MINDEF DXO gets the highest among all MX-type of jobs?

...cos Defence Budget it the highest?

Lta exe engineer
 

ya, grade 7.

I am an industrial scholar actually.

I think they disgard it completely?

fresh grad female no ns no honor 3rd class 3.8k (personal friend)

as for 2nd upper and Ns, I really curious because I cant find any reliable source.

Does FCH candidate get paid better?

I noted a mutual who was a FCH scholar drawing 5k (2nd year in LTA)

:(((