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Unregistered 25-06-2020 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139733)
my starting was 3.5.. local U 2nd upper no NS.. joined 2019.

sorry i mean my increment was 11%, slightly less than $400

Wow $400 is quite a good jump for MX13 to MX12! :)

Unregistered 25-06-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139285)
Which stat board? This is important. If you mean 7-8k including your bonuses, conservatively 5-7 years if you start from 4k.

There is a difference in starting salary, but no difference in progression, diff in progresion is between scholars and farmers.


Assuming two MX farmers with same performance, wouldn't the one with FCH progress faster than non-FCH because of different CEP?

Unregistered 25-06-2020 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139781)
Assuming two MX farmers with same performance, wouldn't the one with FCH progress faster than non-FCH because of different CEP?

Yeap can confirm. Public service takes good care of their scholars and FCH

Unregistered 25-06-2020 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139799)
Yeap can confirm. Public service takes good care of their scholars and FCH

I am second lower, does it mean I'm doom? I did promote twice quickly but now I'm worried... :(

Unregistered 25-06-2020 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139802)
I am second lower, does it mean I'm doom? I did promote twice quickly but now I'm worried... :(

As long as there's career progression, still can stay.

It's when your career starts stagnating where'll you need to assess whether there're better options out there.

Unregistered 25-06-2020 05:47 PM

Hey guys, if we move to another SB or ministry, will our remuneration be pegged to our current salary or can we expect +8 to +15% jump similar to most people who change jobs outside?

Unregistered 25-06-2020 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139781)
Assuming two MX farmers with same performance, wouldn't the one with FCH progress faster than non-FCH because of different CEP?

nope.. FCH does not equate to higher CEP than non-FCH

Unregistered 25-06-2020 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139807)
Hey guys, if we move to another SB or ministry, will our remuneration be pegged to our current salary or can we expect +8 to +15% jump similar to most people who change jobs outside?

depends on whether you move between SB/ministry on movement policy or resign-and-join new scheme (eg from MX to non-MX or vice versa). if movement policy, then salary remains the same. if the latter option, then it depends.

Unregistered 25-06-2020 06:27 PM

To be honest, even if different scheme, most likely they will place you in the similar salary grades across the 2 schemes so the salary can be matched... Unless you are talking about MX being handpicked to join AO...
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139810)
depends on whether you move between SB/ministry on movement policy or resign-and-join new scheme (eg from MX to non-MX or vice versa). if movement policy, then salary remains the same. if the latter option, then it depends.

Nope, fat hope! The employer is the same aka "Ah Gong", why should they pay you more? In private sector, job hope can fetch 10-20% increment because firms compete to get talent and the contacts/new business leads/experience/skills which the poached staff might bring along... within PS/CS, I don't think so... most likely when you change job, it will be a different job scope...
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139807)
Hey guys, if we move to another SB or ministry, will our remuneration be pegged to our current salary or can we expect +8 to +15% jump similar to most people who change jobs outside?


Unregistered 25-06-2020 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139813)
To be honest, even if different scheme, most likely they will place you in the similar salary grades across the 2 schemes so the salary can be matched... Unless you are talking about MX being handpicked to join AO...


Nope, fat hope! The employer is the same aka "Ah Gong", why should they pay you more? In private sector, job hope can fetch 10-20% increment because firms compete to get talent and the contacts/new business leads/experience/skills which the poached staff might bring along... within PS/CS, I don't think so... most likely when you change job, it will be a different job scope...

Thanks for the response. Looks like if solely for the purpose of pay increase, ideally one should hop out to private and back to CS in order not to be bogged down by "starting salary" issues.

Unregistered 26-06-2020 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139302)
That's assuming you don't get promoted.

I'm an average farmer, took me 5 years to hit $6k from 3.6k. Currently MX11.

that's quite sad...i'm on a specialised scheme and im near 6k after 1 year...

Unregistered 26-06-2020 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139799)
Yeap can confirm. Public service takes good care of their scholars and FCH

not 100% true.

i was the previous poster that joined SB 2 years ago. currently 36 yr old mx10 (just promoted).

i am from a non local U. currently i have 2 mx11a and 2 mx11 reporting to me. One 36 yr old, FCH NUS.. Another 38 yr old masters from NUS..

Unregistered 26-06-2020 09:09 AM

though not impossible, but this post seems more like an egoistic retaliation. Like u give me a slap and i am returning with two.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139859)
not 100% true.

i was the previous poster that joined SB 2 years ago. currently 36 yr old mx10 (just promoted).

i am from a non local U. currently i have 2 mx11a and 2 mx11 reporting to me. One 36 yr old, FCH NUS.. Another 38 yr old masters from NUS..


Unregistered 26-06-2020 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139865)
though not impossible, but this post seems more like an egoistic retaliation. Like u give me a slap and i am returning with two.

why is this not possible?
i am 35yr old in LTA, just a grade 9 (similar to mx11a).. but i am the RO for 2 grade 9 and 2 grade 8.. one of them has a Masters from NUS.

i think what this poster say is highly possible. I am new to PS, unless you are saying this is possible in SB but not Min

Unregistered 26-06-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139813)
To be honest, even if different scheme, most likely they will place you in the similar salary grades across the 2 schemes so the salary can be matched... Unless you are talking about MX being handpicked to join AO...


Nope, fat hope! The employer is the same aka "Ah Gong", why should they pay you more? In private sector, job hope can fetch 10-20% increment because firms compete to get talent and the contacts/new business leads/experience/skills which the poached staff might bring along... within PS/CS, I don't think so... most likely when you change job, it will be a different job scope...

The only reason ppl resign and join is for pay increment. If pay was the same, might as well ask for secondment/posting instead.

Unregistered 26-06-2020 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139876)
why is this not possible?
i am 35yr old in LTA, just a grade 9 (similar to mx11a).. but i am the RO for 2 grade 9 and 2 grade 8.. one of them has a Masters from NUS.

i think what this poster say is highly possible. I am new to PS, unless you are saying this is possible in SB but not Min

Yes, they mainly look at years of exp. Masters/MBA are good for future mgmt roles, but aren't as relevant for junior roles.

Unregistered 26-06-2020 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139808)
nope.. FCH does not equate to higher CEP than non-FCH

Hmm is there even a point in getting FCH then, apart from the slightly higher starting salary? I always thought CS cared a lot about your grades haha.

Unregistered 26-06-2020 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139859)
not 100% true.

i was the previous poster that joined SB 2 years ago. currently 36 yr old mx10 (just promoted).

i am from a non local U. currently i have 2 mx11a and 2 mx11 reporting to me. One 36 yr old, FCH NUS.. Another 38 yr old masters from NUS..

Hmm honestly seems like these 2 NUS grads took a longer route thus still at mx11/a in mid-late 30s. Usually freshgrad especially fch reach mx11a in abt 4-5 years.

So will be age 28 or 29 around there.

Unregistered 26-06-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139907)
Hmm is there even a point in getting FCH then, apart from the slightly higher starting salary? I always thought CS cared a lot about your grades haha.

Hahaha. Of course CS cares about grades for entry. But CS cares more about job performance after that.

Unregistered 26-06-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139923)
Hmm honestly seems like these 2 NUS grads took a longer route thus still at mx11/a in mid-late 30s. Usually freshgrad especially fch reach mx11a in abt 4-5 years.

So will be age 28 or 29 around there.

is this really true about FCH usually get to mx11a at 28 29?
looking around me, i am the youngest mx10 in my division at 36yr old.

or is the route from mx11a to mx10 a tough one?

Unregistered 26-06-2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139923)
Hmm honestly seems like these 2 NUS grads took a longer route thus still at mx11/a in mid-late 30s. Usually freshgrad especially fch reach mx11a in abt 4-5 years.

So will be age 28 or 29 around there.

Er this is not true. I have a FCH colleagues still MX12 at 29yo this year.

Unregistered 26-06-2020 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139955)
is this really true about FCH usually get to mx11a at 28 29?
looking around me, i am the youngest mx10 in my division at 36yr old.

or is the route from mx11a to mx10 a tough one?

i believe its true....at least it happens regularly at my SB? not sure bout others

Unregistered 26-06-2020 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139961)
Er this is not true. I have a FCH colleagues still MX12 at 29yo this year.

I know of people early 40s still stuck at mx12 with degree but not fch

Unregistered 27-06-2020 09:36 AM

Hi!
Could I check if Gross monthly salary includes the 13th month salary and other bonuses (mid year and end of year bonus)?

Unregistered 27-06-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139994)
Hi!
Could I check if Gross monthly salary includes the 13th month salary and other bonuses (mid year and end of year bonus)?

Depends on the context:
-to the taxman, yes
-if you are trying to tell someone (banker or insurance agent) your monthly income to assess affordability, yes
-if you are trying to sell yourself to a new company using annual earnings, yes
-if you ask your employer, no
-if your mother asks, no
-if someone asks what u earn b4 bonus and allowances, no

Must use your discretion

Unregistered 27-06-2020 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139995)
Depends on the context:
-to the taxman, yes
-if you are trying to tell someone (banker or insurance agent) your monthly income to assess affordability, yes
-if you are trying to sell yourself to a new company using annual earnings, yes
-if you ask your employer, no
-if your mother asks, no
-if someone asks what u earn b4 bonus and allowances, no

Must use your discretion


What's the difference between gross monthly salary and basic monthly salary?
I was offered gross monthly salary, so I was wondering if that includes all the bonus (13 month, midyear and end year bonus). Because if Gross monthly salary includes all the bonus that I mentioned above, then it would meant that my monthly salary is lower right?

Unregistered 27-06-2020 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139997)
What's the difference between gross monthly salary and basic monthly salary?
I was offered gross monthly salary, so I was wondering if that includes all the bonus (13 month, midyear and end year bonus). Because if Gross monthly salary includes all the bonus that I mentioned above, then it would meant that my monthly salary is lower right?

Actually there is no way of guessing what the HR is asking you to provide. It's safest to check with her. Just politely ask if by gross they mean all annual income divided by 12 or do they mean your basic+employer contribution?

Unregistered 27-06-2020 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 139998)
Actually there is no way of guessing what the HR is asking you to provide. It's safest to check with her. Just politely ask if by gross they mean all annual income divided by 12 or do they mean your basic+employer contribution?


The HR offered me a gross monthly salary.
Thus, I wanted to check if this gross monthly salary includes the amount for the 13th month,midyear and end of year bonus).
Because if Gross monthly salary includes all the bonus, then it would meant that my baoec salary is actually lower

Unregistered 27-06-2020 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 140000)
The HR offered me a gross monthly salary.
Thus, I wanted to check if this gross monthly salary includes the amount for the 13th month,midyear and end of year bonus).
Because if Gross monthly salary includes all the bonus, then it would meant that my baoec salary is actually lower

In the civil service, gross monthly salary is the amount you get each month. Technically it consist of your basic salary + variable component, etc. Don't have to worry about the variable component as it's not actually variable. The only time it comes to play is when govt announce pay cut, the variable component will be where they cut from. And I think pension is also based on basic salary but I doubt you are on pension scheme.

Unregistered 27-06-2020 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 140052)
In the civil service, gross monthly salary is the amount you get each month. Technically it consist of your basic salary + variable component, etc. Don't have to worry about the variable component as it's not actually variable. The only time it comes to play is when govt announce pay cut, the variable component will be where they cut from. And I think pension is also based on basic salary but I doubt you are on pension scheme.

Pension not only based on basic salary, but also all others pensionable emoluments.

Unregistered 27-06-2020 10:30 PM

Any males in HR? Is it possible to join HR if one is male?

Unregistered 27-06-2020 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 140055)
Any males in HR? Is it possible to join HR if one is male?

Yes, there are males in HR.

Unregistered 29-06-2020 05:43 PM

anyone knows how is MAS grades matched to MX scheme?

Trottle 29-06-2020 10:42 PM

Anyone knows what’s the average annual increment in percentage for ministries?

Unregistered 01-07-2020 07:08 PM

I have been shortlisted for senior development partner role at Enterprise Singapore. May I know what’s the ceiling for this grade? Is it equivalent to mx11 or 11a? Thanks.

Unregistered 01-07-2020 09:22 PM

sounds quite senior.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 140495)
I have been shortlisted for senior development partner role at Enterprise Singapore. May I know what’s the ceiling for this grade? Is it equivalent to mx11 or 11a? Thanks.


Unregistered 01-07-2020 09:29 PM

Anyone been to interview at mom recently? Have they contacted you about the outcome of the job application?

Unregistered 01-07-2020 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 140503)
sounds quite senior.

Can be both - the next level is an inflated title of DD

Unregistered 02-07-2020 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 140495)
I have been shortlisted for senior development partner role at Enterprise Singapore. May I know what’s the ceiling for this grade? Is it equivalent to mx11 or 11a? Thanks.

Hi friend, may I check how old are you and what's your offered pay and the salary range for the title of senior development partner. It will really help us in advising the equivalent MX grade.

Unregistered 02-07-2020 12:20 PM

Hi!

I have been given a verbal offer for a position. However, they did not ask me to go for any medical checkup. Is it common?


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