Does SM have retention bonus?
How many months PB can most SM get? ( 4? )

Sibei true. Feel that locals would guide juniors whereas JHKs would just throw to you and ask you refer to PY. If anything goes wrong, the JHKs seniors just blame juniors lo

Hi all, I'm soon starting out as an audit associate in orange. What are the assumed knowledge that one are expected to know with 0 experience? I do not have any internship experience if you're wondering.. I'm trying to prepare myself in advanced so the learning curve is less steep.

So you mean all those who NV teach is jhk?

Everyone so bz work till die liao still got time teach?

Accounting grad? I don't think you need to prepare anything in advance. I joined without an audit internship too.

Just know there is a good probability that you may have minimal on the job guidance, so need to roll and learn. It depends on luck. Be good friends with your batchmates. They are your source of help (system, what to do, who to ask, or have a helpful senior to refer to)

if you are accounting grad, I think you will be alright, unless you really "return everything".

Just don't show up to work not knowing what is debit/credit, PL and BS.. and you should be fine.

1.4k for blue internship good?

Ya that guy full of shyt.. sure jhk.. go see job description.. senior need guide or mentor junior.

wow blue pay 1.4k to interns now?

dont need compare pay among big 4. Interns are paid in exposure =)

What exposure.. u know they let go of jobs they screwed up to mid or smaller firms lol

Undergrad here. Why do so many people join big4? I’m in NTU and all my cohort people are talking about which big 4 is good. Why don’t join IB when you can earn 5x more?

Because not everyone can get in IB, unless you FCH and good portfolio.

Oh how times have changed. I feel like a boomer in this thread.

During my time, all my friends looked up to Big4 as the gold standard, the holy grail, the dream, and the goal.

If you made it into Big4, among us, then the general consensus is “you’re set, you’ve made it in life”.

Our view of the job is that it had everything we could ask for - good learning experience, working in teams, big brand name on resume, can get CPA (back then still ICPAS, the renaming to ISCA is relatively recent), can have good networking experience, within five years you can meet CFOs, CEOs, enter board room meetings. You gain both hard and soft skills. Your peers are going include your friends from school, your direct reporting Senior could even be just your senior from school too.

Life’s good.

The career model is you must earn your dough, 先苦后甜, and prove your worth - some long hours for lower starting pay is expected, but we think long term, forecast the benefit over our entire career and conclude it’s a winner. It made sense - you start from the basics and work your way up.

We knew the trade-offs, we did our homework, we went in willingly and happily.

Even first class honors graduates and Dean listers will apply.

ntu is big 4 factory

Hi I will probably graduate with 3rd class any chance of going into big 4? Nothing special on my portfolio also.

There's no more third class honors already

My time yes, now I don't see as many of them wanting to go audit already

Hi Uncle, ICPAS was renamed to ISCA in 2013, that’s 9 years ago.

9 years is enough for A1 to climb to SM.

How boomer are you?

my cohert all quit after 1 year

lmao, RSM paying 1.5k for interns, kpmg should increase to match the market rate

Blue progression ranking name? Heard it’s different from the other color?

If your career goal is to become a CFO, a working experience in a big4 is a distinct advantage vs others without the former experience.

G2 G1 S4 S3. Don't ask why the numbers are not even in sequence. Didn't bother finding it out

If your career goal is to become a CFO, working experience in a big4 firm gives you a distinct advantage over those without the former experience.

Could be some school culture or guidance thing. Maybe career services didn't do enough to suggest other career options. So more one track minded

Besides IB and Big4, there are other career options for acct grad too.

lol why you share sia

This was my trick to identify trolls who pretend to be from KP but don’t know the grades.

For me, it’s not because I went Big4 because I was from NTU

I went NTU precisely because I wanted to go Big4, and NTU is 3 years compared to NUS/SMU which is 4 years.

Hi guys, i am an average joe in NTU with average grades. However i still aspire to be a partner one day. Knowing that high flyers wont go audit, surely my chance of becoming a partner would be quite high?

Bachelor of Accountancy?

There are no average joes in NTU. You are the main character of your story.

You can always go NTU for the 3years direct honours but still consider other career options. The only reason I choose not NTU cos I don't want to end sch too fast

My life ambition is to get NTU FCH and go Big4 audit and get CA!

A1 = G2
A2 = G1
S1 = S4
S2 = S3?

Is blue high on something when they made this system? Wonder what is their M equivalent? F1?

tiagong got M0

Tiagong now yellow and black A1 or A2 liao ah?

So regardless, you will just be ‘Associate’ ah?

does blue still give $200 more for FCH after they raise A1 pay to 3.6k?

what is tiagong?

You got FCH meh?

And where source they raised to 3.6k?

Accounting so boring. Grad liao still have to suffer in Big 4, OT like dog, sit for professional exams, stare at MS excel spreadsheets everyday. I don't understand why so many people still want to study Accounting. The money is not great as well. B4 starting pay is lower than civil servant lol.

Studying Accounting and working in Big 4 is the biggest regret in my life. The studying part still not that bad but working as an accountant or auditor is just downright horrible.

Accounting boring meh?

I hated science, humanities, maths and languages.

POA was the only subject which I excelled in lol.

But as a guy who has already wasted 2 yrs serving ns, it makes no sense to choose NUS or SMU (4yrs) over NTU (3yrs) as your male friends in NTU will already have 1 year headstart over you. For girls who went NTU, they have 3 years headstart ahead of you if u choose a 4 years course.

Worse still, if everyone ends up in big 4, u will have to report to your JC/poly same batchmates as they grad one year before u.