Substantiate why you say EY has better welfare

Then KP has better welfare?

LOL u all damn funny sia compare welfare. when u are in big 4 means no welfare liao la

It’s a zoomer thing. Old gen like you don’t understand what we want.

KP used to have a no. of bank jobs although some rotated out recently? why don't you check the annual reports of the various banks you know to get a sense. KP better in the sense that the FS audit team has FS and non FS jobs. So if you join and realize that you actually don't like to audit banks, can easily request for the non-bank jobs.

Pwc has good culture

Is CA a must to go outside and say be a financial analyst? Or FP&A?

Don't need, CA is just for signing of reports

Agreed. EY has one of the worst welfare compared to other B4. Even with the increment that was above and beyond the market rate, there’s a mass resignation now lol. Happy to leave this place after 4 years

Congrats to you! ORD already

I heard people there are concurrently following up on 3 to 4 jobs. Do 1 engagement already want to die still need to handle 3-4 jobs.

What the hell is wrong with EY? Then they pretend to be shocked when people suddenly quit.

They think throwing money can solve the mass resignation problem but ey s1/s2 salary is only $100 more than the rest

Don't even mention about the training or guidance. There is no training or guidance at all. Manager will just throw you tons of things to do and ask you random questions even though you are new to the engagement. Sometimes the manager is even unsure of certain stuff. Hello, you are paid $10k to understand the biz and guide the team. You expect senior or staff earning $3-4k to guide you?

that's why work culture is important, you cant go for s1 job scope without mastering your a1 work yet! but seems like its the opposite for some firm hmm not to mention since its already widely known

definitely agree on this

PwC appears to have a good culture.

You know a firm is gone and toxic when they keep hiring new managers and seniors. The new managers and seniors are new to all engagements and have no idea how to plan them. They will delegate the jobs downwards and the y1/y2 associates are expected to know seniors and above job scopes. Being new associates, they obviously have no idea how to do and start to quit... while the seniors and managers continue to get promoted and smoke their ways through

You said it. “Appears”. The truth is that post-covid all firms are facing even greater attrition rate than before. Of course the worst gets worse and the best deteriorates. What’s good is bad now tbh

You know a firm is gone case when they only have 1 A1 and 1 A2 handling a million dollar audit fee MNC client because all the seniors have left and they are unable to hire new seniors. Senior managers, managers and seniors are leaving in droves despite the pay hike and work from home.

Depends on your goal. Some Finance Manager roles require at least a CA.

I just shut down my computer.

It Friday night…

Oh… Saturday already…

thank you for saving us . do keep staying on this job ok

Since u say SMs are leaving yellow in droves. Those that stay back will get partner lor

Most of the SMs I encountered in EY have zero leadership skills and EQ. They don't know how to lead or guide but will blame you if anything goes wrong. Even some of the M1 and M2s have better EQ than them but of course these nice people tend to leave EY

But they will still become partner

SA3s who stay behind while their peers quit also have higher chances of getting promoted.

But is it worth it?

of course worth it. you are saving us !

Most SMs are females

This field is not suitable for anyone looking for a standard 8 to 5 office desk bound job.

Ya, so tempt to just go put in my two weeks!!!

Most associates to SMs are females but most partners are males

Is there a specific reason why Big 4s prefer to hire females? My batch had 70% females, 30% males. Is it because females are more obedient, detail oriented?

This field is retarded.

Working hours similar to investment bank but the pay is pathetic.

Working hours similar to resident doctors but they are saving lives while we are just detecting material misstatements.

Which idiot started all the OT nonsense when we are not even saving lives?

Exactly partners are mostly males , but SMs are mostly females

Accounting is not even a prestigious degree or job
Top percentage of cohort does law , medicine , dentistry etc

Neither as someone mentioned isit saving lives . I can understand if
People from above degrees work late but why should auditors. We are
Not rushing for a courtcase or surgery . We dont even get proceeds
From the audit fee .

What is the point
Wake up ur ideas people

The concept of Auditing is a relic of the 20th century. Numerous very high profile audit failures in the UK, EU, USA and China have shown that it is incapable of fulfilling its role in providing crucial info for the efficient operation of the financial markets.

It is high time for regulatory reform to replace this outmoded system with something else.

Then you all join for what? No one held a gun to your head to force you to join.

I have nowhere else to go that’s why I’m here and I’m not complaining.

Who ask you choose accounting in the first place? Because got a lot of girls inside? Then that’s on you for making an uninformed decision when you were young.

The culture originated overseas I think, and it’s been this way for a long time.

The guy that started this culture has probably retired a long time ago.

Hi does anyone know what's the pay for kpmg audit as fch?

Why in the world would a FCH wanna join audit in the first place?

3200 10kkj