I realised my friends from yellow are always complaining haha!!They are definitely more free than the rest of my friends from Orange, Blue and Green, yet complain the most! really strawberries

Previous batches “spoil market” for us by being too hardworking and putting up with the long hours. Now it makes us look bad in comparison.

I don’t think we are strawberries. It’s just the previous batches are like coconuts or durians, super durable.

Just because my senior works to 3am, doesn’t mean I should be labelled strawberry if I say I prefer to end work at 6pm.

End work at 6pm is perfectly normal.Most of our clients end work at 6pm and expect us to leave. It is only in audit where ending work at 12am is considered normal and ending work at 6pm is lazy

Culture of eating hours for partners need to die

How is it that no one in the history of this thread had lodged a complaint if all these stories of working to 12am is true?

because malaysians with tunku abdul rahman accounting degree are lining up to replace u to earn the 1SGD:3MYR.

goldman sachs associates can pushback on insane working hours and their partners LLST hv to listen becos GS knows what kind of juniors they want and won't settle for 2nd rate juniors.
://.efinancialcareers.sg/news/2021/03/goldman-sachs-overworked-analysts

u try to do that and they'll drop u for a malaysian immediately and at a cheaper rate

Bro are you in the industry? With the exception of interns or maybe some lucky A1s, who haven't experienced working till 12am before in audit?

I’m not in the industry. Just curious passing by this thread wondering why it’s so active.

Can someone give me breakdown why previously in this thread they say sm earns 160 k per annum?

If 10 k salary pm + 2m bonus that is only 140 k

Because different firm different grading.

Some firms got Director. Other firms the “director” is embedded inside SM.

found this in the older pages.. any updates?

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Audit

PwC: $3,000
Deloitte: $3,000
EY: $3,000 - $3,200
KPMG $3,200

Tax

PwC: $3,000
Deloitte: $3,000
EY: $3,000 - $3,200
KPMG $3,200

Risk / Risk Advisory

PwC (Risk Assurance): $3,000
PwC (Risk Consulting): $3,200
Deloitte: $3,000
EY:
KPMG:

Advisory/Consulting

PwC - $4,000 no bonus first year
Strategy& - $4,200 (<FCH) - $4,500 (FCH)
Deloitte - $3,500
EY - $3,500
EY-Parthenon - $3,800
KPMG - $3,200

Corporate Finance/Valuation

PwC One Deals - $4,000
Deloitte - $3,800
EY VME - $3,500
KPMG -

wtf Parthenon 3.8k sure bo? In the US, Parthenon used to be a top tier strat consulting shop after MBB. Brand really went to sh*t after being bought by EY

If you’re looking for money, don’t join audit.

Audit

PwC: $3,000
Deloitte: $3,000
EY: $3,000 - $3,200
KPMG $3,200

Tax

PwC: $3,000
Deloitte: $3,000
EY: $3,000 - $3,200
KPMG $3,200

Risk / Risk Advisory

PwC (Risk Assurance): $3,400 no bonus first year
PwC (Risk Consulting): $3,200
Deloitte: $3,000
EY:
KPMG:

Advisory/Consulting

PwC - $4,000 no bonus first year
Strategy& - $4,200 (<FCH) - $4,500 (FCH)
Deloitte - $3,500
EY - $3,500
EY-Parthenon - $3,800
KPMG - $3,200

Corporate Finance/Valuation

PwC One Deals - $4,000
Deloitte - $3,800
EY VME - $3,500
KPMG -

Exactly. Those 1980s uncles. This culture is now hard to change.

I am a millennial and older than most of my peers but I worked the least and advised the rest to just do the bare minimum. No point working so hard if the firm does not appreciate you and assign more work to you .I would say some of the gen z have the boomer mindset and work until 3am but things are looking good. I believe gen z can change the work culture

“Gen Z: Researchers and popular media use the mid-to-late 1990s as starting birth years and the early 2010s as ending birth years.”

Hmm for the mid 1990s batch, I didn’t observe them really trying to change the culture.

Those after 2000s and just graduating these few years, the future is entrusted in your hands. When you guys become the seniors and managers, treat your juniors well. No more work to 3am!!!

So how much does a SM 3 earn per month / per year

5k per month

Partner might have 7 to 8k per month.

please.... you are from which country hole?

junior manager can get this already.

You should ask he time traveller from which year.

Maybe 1920s.

So what is SM 3 monthly pay? Asking as my friend's GF is SM3 in thebig 4. seems very well to do , i kaypoh

About 4k per month?

Which Big4? Not all the same how we answer you?

A range will do , she is in yellow and was told 180k annual salary , wondering if it is true

Ok is she a first year newly promoted SM3

Or she has been stuck at SM3 for many years already?

newly promoted

Then 180k sounds like on the high side to me.

Possible if she is exceptional performer.

Oh you asking about Audit right?

She has been SM3 for 3-4 years

BTW is WFH planning to cease for big 4 in jan

Nah it’s not B4 policy that matter, it’s clients.

If have to go client then go client. If cannot go client, most managers I’ve worked with don’t insist you come office.

Do SMs have to go clients

Yes… my SM comes “visit” very often pre-covid.

Lol the majority (>50%) of the A1s won’t even make it to Manager before they throw in the towel.

My group out of 20++ As, think only 2 stayed until M

hahahahaha! And i guess the CEO earns $20k per month?

:)

There isn’t a CEO in Big4. This is not a listed company where you have shareholders and management. The Partners are the management.

How often do y’all go meet clients

Pre-covid during fieldwork period, everyday.

Why everyday ?

Meet new client or existing ones