Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277443)

Really? I thought we only outsource grunt work and not seniors?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277480)

take a look at recent accounting degree entry rank pt u will know why the quality of juniors falling... expect ppl who get BCCD to have work ethics and motivation to learn ah?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277447)

SkillsFuture credit are in…

Got 5k total credits to spend - anything helpful for accounting and finance

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277504)

I guess the people in the middle will age more rapidly than those above and those below 😂

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277522)

Are documentation in the working paper in Big4 still very messy nowadays?

Very long never come back see this forum already. Ex-auditor here.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277501)

There is sub con going on u be amaze.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277525)

Risk-based.

Those big jobs, listed jobs, government jobs, will have additional scrutiny so the quality is still quite good.

The smaller jobs, SMEs, no special items on balance sheet or unusual transactions, team composition tends to be more juniors and quality may not be on same level as the listed clients.

Listed jobs probably A+ cause any mishap the audit partner licence is at stake, whereas lower risk they only aim to pass file inspection and not trying to impress anyone.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277509)

You above 40 years old!?!?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277519)

I'm a Malaysian currently working as a Senior Associate at EY Singapore, having transferred from EY KL. I enjoy working in Singapore as there are many fellow Malaysians here. However, I find the workload quite stressful and the cost of renting to be high.

Any Malaysian here?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277525)

Risk-based.

Those big jobs, listed jobs, government jobs, will have additional scrutiny so the quality is still quite good.

The smaller jobs, SMEs, no special items on balance sheet or unusual transactions, team composition tends to be more juniors and quality may not be on same level as the listed clients.

Listed jobs probably A+ cause any mishap the audit partner licence is at stake, whereas lower risk they only aim to pass file inspection and not trying to impress anyone.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277526)

How does it even work? Does KPMG SG set up a KPMG SG-MY Sdn bhd or something? Or do they just pass to KPMG MY? I don't recall Malaysian seniors in Big 4 working on Malaysian clients having such high pay like the outsourced seniors do.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277419)

Are you from yellow ? Sounds like it

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277443)

Really? I thought we only outsource grunt work and not seniors?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277541)

Hi, Im an S2 in EY Malaysia, and I have applied to SG Big 4 as well as mid tier like BDO, RSM, Crowe, but no replies so far. Can I know when is the recruitment for Big 4 SG usually?

Im just trying to go to SG cause my boyfriend lives there and he keeps asking me to move there for our future

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277552)

Hi Malaysian here too.

Why not ask for internal transfer from EY Malaysia to EY Singapore? I'm sure EY Singapore need manpower now.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277554)

Are you from EY SG? Are they hiring rn? Im planning to ask my counselor this during my next 1to1 cause i got good feedback for my FY23 Dec audit.

Im just a bit worried cause my position is S2 and im not super confident about my ability to take on a Supervisor role... Im worried my counselor will think Im not the best fit or like only the best ppl shud be transferred/smthg like that.

I wish I had made the move to SG earlier... But its only recently that my boyfriend keep asking me to move there.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277553)

Hi everyone, I just got scolded "don't take your own sweet time" to finish the work.

Any comments?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277555)

No plans to change boyfriend?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277554)

Are you from EY SG? Are they hiring rn? Im planning to ask my counselor this during my next 1to1 cause i got good feedback for my FY23 Dec audit.

Im just a bit worried cause my position is S2 and im not super confident about my ability to take on a Supervisor role... Im worried my counselor will think Im not the best fit or like only the best ppl shud be transferred/smthg like that.

I wish I had made the move to SG earlier... But its only recently that my boyfriend keep asking me to move there.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277564)

The only reason they wont release you is because they scared they no audit senior. No "for the best" only nonsense.

Just find someone to refer you. There's tons of auditors on non-anonymous social media. It's just free money for us if you do get in.

Also just apply to all firms aside from EY.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277591)

No point staying in audit.

Client don't respect u.
Colleagues don't gafb you
Partners treat u like dirt
Manager doesn't respect u

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277569)

How’s the promotion or progression rate across big 4?
Is it getting more difficult?

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277606)

My client add me facebook and linkedin
My jrs and snr and fellow m to d are ok
Partners very nice to me
Hmm as above. At m levl but i treat ppl well.

U just with the wrong team and/or place.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277450)

pls share the decent industries with transferable skills. don't be like those goons who drop this and disappear pls.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277411)

OP here. agree with what u said 100%. also another thing i observed abt audit ppl trying to exit is that they overvalue their audit exp. tbh those fortune 500 finance position openings, 100 applicants i think 80 are from big 4 lol... what differentiates A from B？

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277624)

the ones that differentiate are usually like these:
3 years in big4, go to commercial
3 years in commercial, go back big4,
3 years in big4 again, title is senior manager.

When the senior manager wanna go back to commercial, it is easier.
Because they know how commercial works.

Those home grown managers dont even know how to use SAP. how to jump out u tell me HAHAHA

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277623)

why should i share? u shud put in ur own effort to go and find.

audit so much industries and u cant find a good industry ??? ?????????????

nowonder auditors quality going down.

thank god i left within 1 yr after grad.
20 AL, 5 fam leave, ;d
boooooo

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277407)

i think the problem is even if u jump out as an accountant, why would companies pay more than 6k for an accountant. I think a lot of people failed to think from the company's perspective. If you own a SME, i dont think u would hire ex-big4 as an accountant paying 6k++. Unless, u r applying big big firms. But u would be fighting with a lot of people.

I think the only way to jump out from big4 is to aim for finance manager / controller / CFO etc. If yall think that yall dont have wad it takes, btr jump out of this industry.

There are other pretty decent industry with transferable skills from accounting and pays more.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277634)

ERP Consulting, Treasury and FP&A pay and WLB is **** in SG, don't just parrot what you read from American Redditors.

The fact is industries that pay well don't consider accounting experience to be useful. You can get in perfectly fine (and much easier) without an audit background.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277637)

thats why i said, transferable skills.
I did not say accounting skills are transferable.

And i do agree it is easier to jump out of the industry asap.
I do have friends (fresh grads) go into high finance / banks / etc... with an accounting degree.

dont whine if u didn't do well enuf. period.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277564)

The only reason they wont release you is because they scared they no audit senior. No "for the best" only nonsense.

Just find someone to refer you. There's tons of auditors on non-anonymous social media. It's just free money for us if you do get in.

Also just apply to all firms aside from EY.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277638)

Non-technical or non-industry-specific "transferable" skills are just simple DA or soft skills that even fresh grads have. Don't be a Linkedin influencer and bluff the blur kids here.

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 277648)

I feel like my counselor and partners will be unhelpful about transferring ppl to other countries anyway. During town hall, the partner was like threatening us showing all the news of layoffs in US/UK big 4 and saying that other countries are having stricter requirements for hiring ppl from other countries. Basically like telling us you have nowhere else to go, other countries don’t want u. And you better stay and work here cause the economy is bad and you can be layoff